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[inyati]

GodOfShampoo wrote:
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Just to let you kno. this alliance is 100% digg ran so watch out. they may try to flank you, or Pantheon.

[AeroS]

It could be apart of a plan to split. There is really nothing we can/should do about it anyways.

[inyati]

No, its just information that could or not be useful....

[Aesir]

Not useful.. Rahein just decided to break away.. not affiliated with any Digg operation or whatever.

[AeroS]

Maybe we ought to get a diplomat or friend of his over there and talk to him. He can pull some strength from DIGG. If that is at all possible then this split can happen by force instead of by choice. I would even see it as a more favorable way for DIGG to split since it will be an alliance that will not pact with DIGG after splitting away. We may even be able to help him by promising a 2 month PT with HoR if they can get 20 DIGGers with 10 plus islands to join up.

[2kcastle]

I think now would be a very bad time to be seen as interfering in Digg's affairs, i say we just watch what happens for a while and stay out of the way unless we need to do otherwise.

[AeroS]

2k is probably right. I am getting a bit ahead of myself.

[Arminius]

One of them is spying on the MK-5 isles.

[Clausewitz]

I find that extremely troubling.

I have little doubt they are functioning as an arm of DIGG. They may very well have done it to allow things like this under a veil of plausible deniability.

So the question becomes; to what ends is DIGG spying the MK-5 account? Lemonion recently raised the matter in the IK forums (interestingly, asking questions he already knew the answers to, which raises my eyebrows that he's working some sort of conscious agenda).

Has DIGG requested a rotation of the MK-5 management in the AMC lately? Has there been any talk on the AMC lately?

[Sol]

Unfortunately, I think the best course of action morkin and family can take now is to avoid war with ORC and possibly prepare war with DIGG.

These aren't my warmongering thoughts or me just wanting us to go to war with DIGG. Thing is, DIGG might make the first move against US.

I had an idea that the MK-5 business would be held against us and perhaps this will now be their excuse to do something about us even though they know how it works. The advantage they have is that the majority of the IK population doesn't really know what the MK-5 or AMC is upto. To be honest, I didn't even know such thing existed until Skulkrinbait made that post in the KoM section.

That being said, I know Arminius has a plan concerning the AMC. But I think we should post something on the official forums clarifying its purpose and setting rules. And possibly stating that the AMC will not tolerate having people spy on the MK-5 account especially spies by those who have ties with members of the AMC.

I agree with Clause...it is very troubling. So the sooner we clarify things, the better it will be for us I think.

[AeroS]

No talk of new management but there is always the chatter about the effectiveness of the account.
Matter of fact, the AMC has very little chatter on it at all and I would say that it will have to be made a priority of the top alliances soon or it will simply fade away(which may not be so bad). Maybe Lemonion has knowledge of the accounts xxl end date and hopes that someone will ignore the account long enough for it to go rulerless. It can't be long before the xxl package goes away.

[Clausewitz]

aeros said:

No talk of new management but there is always the chatter about the effectiveness of the account.
Matter of fact, the AMC has very little chatter on it at all and I would say that it will have to be made a priority of the top alliances soon or it will simply fade away(which may not be so bad). Maybe Lemonion has knowledge of the accounts xxl end date and hopes that someone will ignore the account long enough for it to go rulerless. It can't be long before the xxl package goes away.

I find this highly unlikely.

The last time the account stats were posted that I saw, the islands were stacked. The prospects of colonizing them if rulerless seems slim to none.

I fear something more malicious is in store...

[Sol]

Yep, I'm with Clause on this one.

So for now, I'm going to say No to the ORC war.

Bigger things might be coming our way.

[Dalfiatach]

It looks like DIGG are trying to pull a fast one over MK-5 alright. God only knows what mad scheme they have in mind though.

Thinking caps on, folks. We need to come up with a workable set of rules and procedures for the AMC and fast, then we need to make them public and get most alliances from rank 3 downwards to support them. And we need to do this by Friday.

DIGG, allegedly, were going to go dark for about a week before a Big Announcement so we have a couple of days to outflank them on this.

While we're brainstorming that in here, everybody - everybody - should be off casually chatting to all their contacts in all non-DIGG alliances (in fact, DIGG too). Nothing specific, just be friendly. Lovebomb that server!

[Sol]

arminius said:

I've been in touch with several 2nd tier alliances about my idea of taking over the AMC, and pretty much everybody thinks it's a good idea. So when we go live with it, there will be support for us.

Also, it is useless *now*, which is why we're doing something about it. Unfortunately I'm away next week at a conference, but when I come back I intend to lauch the 'new AMC'.

Maybe we can help Arminius launch it this Friday?