SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 19, 2007 7:09:06 GMT
I'm wanting to find out the general feeling, should we help Orc?
I vote yes, attack the likes of Pumpit. blade, Th0R etc.
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2kcastle
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Post by 2kcastle on Jan 19, 2007 7:20:01 GMT
I voted yes to limited strikes, personally i feel that orc rushed into the attacks on tyrant and we ended up fighting before we were ready but i dont like seeing -s- players take advantage of the fact orc used their fleets to stop tyrant cheating.
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Post by guinevere on Jan 19, 2007 8:34:09 GMT
I think Orc are suiciding themselves. We should get more support from other alliances before we follow them.
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inyati
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Post by inyati on Jan 19, 2007 9:49:19 GMT
I voted yes on limited strikes, but agree with Guin. Plus it would be good if we get some diplomacy roling.
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 19, 2007 10:44:18 GMT
Lets wait a bit first. Everyone was willing to go to the Tyrant incident, but it was a logistic nightmare. There is will, but the isnt capacity (and i mean coordination and onlinetime, not ships... well maybe CATs lacking). This time we shouldnt rush so much. If we go, we need to be decisive and it needs to be all over allready before the moment it starts, like the wars we used to have. In the meantime, we can donate stuff and stoners, do wetworks
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 19, 2007 11:07:04 GMT
Arminius wrote, and i agree. I know for sure id like to have them on the game, and we need to help, but these things need also to be considered.
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Post by ashimar on Jan 19, 2007 11:47:29 GMT
I too think we should help Orc, but for the moment my military role is limited. I'll revert to talking and psywar for now. Or giving out stuff to help them.
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Post by eproxy on Jan 19, 2007 11:52:06 GMT
I think quite a few of our members are still recovering from the attacks... even some of those who didn't lose whole fleet are only just getting back to their previous numbers. We also need time to build up a store of colo ships and cats.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 19, 2007 12:49:40 GMT
And digg is putting huge pressure on -S- diplomaticly. Their members fear.
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Post by Pose on Jan 19, 2007 13:03:46 GMT
I take on board( forgive the pun) Natmus' concearns about our help would seem as though we are targeting [-s-] individually, and I also can see that many of our mrmbers have lost the majority, if not all of there attacking fleets already.
But feel that we (our alliances) went into this with our eyes wide open and went in together, there was the specture of [-s-] attacking back in full force when we moved, we moved anyway to protect the greater good....we moved together then, whats changed?
they didnt attack back i think, partly because of our talks with them but I wager mainly because they saw that our alliances WOULD stick together against them and that they would lose ground if not the war.
we would not have achieved what we have without ORC, and whats to say [-s-] wont turn there attention to us once orc are dealt with?
I say support them NOW definatley with stoners etc, and open talks with [-s-] with a view to telling them to stop or we will attack ANY isle that launches at orc will be scorched.
Im not sure if there are any other Issues here with orc and individual members, if this is the case then let THAT play out.. if its directly linked to our interalliance tyrant hunt then we have aresponsability to help.
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 19, 2007 13:31:08 GMT
I take on board( forgive the pun) Natmus' concearns about our help would seem as though we are targeting [-s-] individually, and I also can see that many of our mrmbers have lost the majority, if not all of there attacking fleets already. Not nearly true. We have lot of power left. Like thousands of LWS and hundreds of CATs. I think they didnt act because of fear paralyzed them. It was caused by many methods, and also from withinthem. Yes, Orcs initiated this, and should not be abandoned. -S- was gathering their act together, but our attack on harvmeister and DIGG pressure made them paralyze again. Now would be nice time to kill them, but thats not what we are after, or is it? Yes, DIGG has been putting a huge pressure and sending mails to all -S- members. They are also organizing attacks as we speak. Should the attacks continue, force will be definitely used, but not yet. In any case, we need to be sending stuff to them. Technicly Orcs dont have treaties and we are not obligated but only by our morale and wisdom, and sense of humour.
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Post by eproxy on Jan 19, 2007 15:22:12 GMT
If [Digg] are backing [Orc] I say we do too, implement Scorched Earth on isles involved. Then issue a statement about how this is not an attack on -S-, we're just defending our friends, if they don't attack they won't get involved.
Our attacks were not against Harvmiester, they were against 2:96:21, a former isle of Tyrants. Perhaps they need to be reminded of this.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 19, 2007 15:32:22 GMT
Our attacks were not against Harvmiester, they were against 2:96:21, a former isle of Tyrants. Perhaps they need to be reminded of this. Thats a good point to express to them in any case.
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Post by Arminius on Jan 19, 2007 17:26:53 GMT
In a recent poll, apparently 85% of -S- were against a war with us. So I've been told...
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 19, 2007 18:26:06 GMT
They fear us! A limited war against the aggressors in -S- is justifiable I think and should make the world a safer place.
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