[PWS] Peace?

[Natmus]

Darkcloud320, an admin of FirefxIN contacted me in genreal and chatted a bit, then dropped this bomb:

Message
Date: 26.12.2005 16:21
From: darkcloud320
Subject: RE: RE: fun
we need a diplomatic end otherwise it could go on for ages longer.

would you agree to a diplomatic end?

I answered that as were just about finished kicking those players we wanted to kick, peace might be our wish too, but I of course needed to consult with the Morkin leadership and active players to hear their opinions.

So, what is the status of PWS? Have those who wants to quit with a bang gotten their bang? Have we gotten our revenge on the E~L boys? Are we a legend now?

And do we want to go playing this game, otherwise peace is a rather uninteresting option.

Please comment, everybody.

[Natmus]

Here is the full transcript of the conversation with him:

Message
Date: 26.12.2005 16:47
To: darkcloud320
Subject: RE: RE: RE: fun
And thank you too. I have called a caese fire on both our forums, no more attacks are launched, and those we have incoming we will try to avoid by sending the fleets out when they hit, then recall them again.

It's a pleasure dealing with a reasonable individual like yourself.

Kind regards
Natmus

darkcloud320 wrote:
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yes yes ofcourse! thanks

Natmus wrote:
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To me personally it sounds very acceptable, but I need the agreement of my fellow admins. Also I know that there are some heavy attacks on the way to JayRosie, but I can call off further attacks on my own right now. How about we all declare a truce for now, and when all attacks underway are over we can declare peace.

Is this okay?

Natmus

darkcloud320 wrote:
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hey jay_rosie has agreed to a peace treaty but would like to be asked by yourself.

is this acceptable?

Natmus wrote:
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Yes, I would agree to a diplomatic end to this.

I will contact the rest of the Morkin leadership and our most active members to hear what they think, but generally I think we are ready for a settlement.

regards
Natmus

darkcloud320 wrote:
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we need a diplomatic end otherwise it could go on for ages longer.

would you agree to a diplomatic end?

[Natmus]

More (start at the bottom):

Message
Date: 26.12.2005 16:53
From: darkcloud320
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: fun
opeace treaty inplace in fxIN

Natmus wrote:
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That sounds reasonable. Personally I have one inbound colony ship aimed at one of my minor isles, I just have to hope it fails.

Also a few other attacks in the distance, but as I said I will move my fleets away when they hit.

I will enact a peace treaty with you from my end at once.

Natmus

darkcloud320 wrote:
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you must accept anymore attacks against my mmembers will be retaliated against if people are breaking this treaty from your allaince. Launched attacks that cant be canceled will have to be dismissed and colonisation attempts.

I will amke a peace treaty with your allaince and please contact me if members perue to still attack your members

At least I have gotten FirefxIN out of the war for a while, if nothing else. ;D

[Perun]

Hm. They've finally understood that they're dealing with smart, organized people.

But does this imply total (whole Firefox) cessation of fire, or just with FirefoxIN? I have one incoming from arde of [E~F]...

I wanna deplete my fleet attacking, then quit.

[Natmus]

perun said:

Hm. They've finally understood that they're dealing with smart, organized people.

But does this imply total (whole Firefox) cessation of fire, or just with FirefoxIN? I have one incoming from arde of [E~F]...

I wanna deplete my fleet attacking, then quit.

For now onlyFirefxIN.

E~L and the other E~ alliances are still fair game, if you are quick.

Find someone good to target. Light_Razor's main isle should have a big garrison, they say.

[soiram]

I have one colonisation fleet out to Gibbon's isle which can't be recalled.

I am neutral to this, as it seems that people wish to keep playing after PWS. As I do not think I will continue, I am not going to vote or express any opinion on peace.

[soiram]

Also this stupid thing on E~W's page is a cause of war by itself. I talked to one admin who then left for N~E. The current admin is not very co-operative.

[Natmus]

Okay, I won't quote all messages, but everybody wants peace. E~L and the small E~s, NE, and so on.

Let's lay down the arms, and call this a complete success.

[Perun]

What's the terms?

[Natmus]

None, really. We just stop fighting on the lines we are now. Whatever attacks are underway have to be endured, but no new attacks.

It is possible to negotiate about buying stolen isles back, but that should not be a detailed cardinal point of the peace.

[Starshatter]

I am still strongly on the side of quitting, but I know that others want to continue. I'm for it if it helps them.

[guinevere]

I thought it had all been agreed. We keep on fighting until there's nothing left. A suicide pact. Anybody who wanted to continue would start a new alliance before PWS. Now it's been decided to continue after all. But what would we do? Build up for months for another PWS. At least there should have been a poll.

[Natmus]

I know, but things are getting out of control. For one thing, we are doing so much better than I thought possible, and those we attacked have lost the taste for fighting. To me that makes continued fighting senseless.

Maybe we should have gone for avinalaff or Raul to be asured of destruction, because we chose a target that despite calling in a lot of allies lost their taste of fighting and couldn't go through with killing us off. Perhaps because we did so well for ourselves, so we have earned their respect for once.

This new situation has arised because the ones we chose to fight effectively surrendered. That ends that war for me. So we can choose another enemy to suicide against, or we decide what to do from here on.

[SkulkrinBait]

I enjoyed the PWS thing but my forces are now depleted to the extent I'm not going to have much more fun.

I'd like to carry on now, in Morkin and basically attack *anyone* who attacks us as an alliance, should be quite an entertaining game then, just login once a day to carry on building archers, LWs and cats!

But I'm not too bothered either war really.

How about those wanting to carry on form a new alliance?

[inyati]

I´ll be staying. Even if the fight was to utter destrution I was not considering abandoning the account. I will glady carry on fight, with stone or words, in Morkin Aliance or in any other one. As I said before, my intention is not to dedicate too much time to the game, and would be a login-a-day scheme.
Possible solutions:
1- Declare war now on a top aliance for complete sucide
2- Rebuild Morkin
3- Rebuild new Aliance
4- Scatter
5- Delete account

5 for me is not an option as of yet.
edit: this is of course my opinion, and I´m sure it will not weight on those that choose nº5 (nor should it).