Rhinokiller

[McGoogus]

hafbaked said:

I think any server scale war is going to come down to two groups. Where Pantheon will stand, and where the 4 alliance group of E||M, PAIN, Empire, and D|D will fall. While the alliances individually may not strike much fear, if both groups decided to stand with EV, FOIMP, Phoenix against us and Digg, it'd be cause for worry. I think both of those two groups would be quick to run to whichever side seemed like the winner at the start, similar to jumping on the Digg/Morkin bandwagon against E|S (although that fight was never really in question).

I think trying to rally the Orcs into fighting as well would be a good idea, in the name of choas.

E||M and PAIN would fight for us regardless of win lose odds.

It might be a good idea to fight soon. If buying multiple accounts isn't stopped soon, the server will die.

[Clausewitz]

I've said in the KoM thread, but I'll say it again because I am quite certain of it based on my intel contacts...

FOIMP would stand to defend Rhinokiller.
EV would stand to defend FOIMP.

This may be an attempt to assassinate a high-profile target, but make no mistake, it will escalate into a multiple Top-10 alliance war.

This may or may not be desirable; but I firmly believe it is an inevitability if we strike out at Rhinokiller, and we must be prepared (if we choose this course of action).

[ashimar]

englishcheese said:

Im starting to get more and more worried about the status of all this. I have things planned with the money Im getting..........and I dont want him wanting his money back once the account could possibly be destroyed......

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition:

"Once you've got the money, you never give it back!"

[Clausewitz]

I'm hearing chatter that the Magnaccia! account is making attacks on the Orcs.

Could be the beginning of a strategy unfolding, rumors that will soon be debunked, or a foolish blunder...

[Freiegeister]

ashimar said:

englishcheese said:

Im starting to get more and more worried about the status of all this. I have things planned with the money Im getting..........and I dont want him wanting his money back once the account could possibly be destroyed......

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition:

"Once you've got the money, you never give it back!"

Let us know when you have the cash. What happens to the account after he has control will be his problem.

clausewitz said:

Any attack on Rhinokiller will be seen as purely political, and without moral purity or righteousness.

This is purely pre-emptive warfare to ensure the long-term viability of the server. We can call it a multi-hunt* but it is really eliminating a potential future rival and ensuring a fairer distribution of islands.

* Any implied parallels to the US invasion of Iraq and justification thereof are purely intentional.

[Clausewitz]

freiegeister said:

clausewitz said:

Any attack on Rhinokiller will be seen as purely political, and without moral purity or righteousness.

This is purely pre-emptive warfare to ensure the long-term viability of the server. We can call it a multi-hunt* but it is really eliminating a potential future rival and ensuring a fairer distribution of islands.

* Any implied parallels to the US invasion of Iraq and justification thereof are purely intentional.

Touche.

I keep my advocacy to myself, so will not express preference for an ivory hunt (or lack thereof), just doing my best to ensure that all the facts are on the table. Without managing 500+ players, I'm finding far more time to dabble in the intelligence industry that Ashimar pioneered on this server

[Freiegeister]

clausewitz said:

Touche.

I was a bit harsh, more correctly it was the US led invasion...

[Clausewitz]

US led liberation

Anyhow, back to Rhinokiller...

[Freiegeister]

clausewitz said:

US led liberation

Anyhow, back to Rhinokiller...

And we all know what they are liberating...

Yes, back to Rhinokiller. He's currently in [unknown] taking war to the ORCs.

Apparently he has the backing of [FOIMP], [SANCT] and [Pantheon].


Clause, can you do some DIGGing. What's brewing for Thursday and do they want us in on it?

[Clausewitz]

freiegeister said:

Clause, can you do some DIGGing. What's brewing for Thursday and do they want us in on it?

I'm hearing that's the target date for some long colo attempts, if you know what I'm saying...

Of course, they're scrambling over this FOIMP move of sending Rhino and a team to Unknown (are they learning from TFM?!?!) to smash the Orcs. Could be postponed yet again...

EDIT: War of rhetoric is taking place here: z10.invisionfree.com/IKC/index.php?showtopic=908&st=0&#last

[Null]

So this was all to get back at the Orcs? Interesting..... As an ex-Empire member, I was never fond of the Orcs, but this server will surely never be the same if they are left to be destroyed. We've seen negative impacts of E|S leaving, the loss of the Orcs would be 10 fold.

What is our stance on this? Plans to help as an alliance? Are we free to assist on individual levels?

[SkulkrinBait]

DIGG are helping with stoner drops, we need to see if the Orcs need any further help.

I do like the Orcs but their style of play goes against Morkin’s, they prey on weaker players etc so I certainly don’t see Morkin announcing public support for the Orcs but perhaps something more subtle might be tolerated.

I agree about not letting the Orcs get wiped out though.

[Clausewitz]

Gorbag
4 minutes ago
colo inbound
1:98:4 from Manz. Due in 1:20 from now. I need stonie drops there badly if you guys can pull it off.

Correction in follow-up IGM: Magz, not Manz.

[Arminius]

Okeanos
13 minutes ago
ORC
Arminius,
I wanted to communicate that Pantheon is not getting involved in the attacks against ORC. Just as we stayed out of the RAID v ORC war....till the coup de tate when ORC went back on their peace agreement. We consider scavenging or kicking someone when they are down to be without honor.

We will work behind the scenes to make certain that ORC is not decimated but no more. It is my understanding that ORC plans to suicide out like E|S so it may be a moot point.

I hope MORKIN+ will also consider staying out of this fight. ORC has been a great alliance whom we have enjoyed tremendously but since the coup they are nothing much more than bullies....I miss the old ORC's.

~ Das

We probably need a new thread for this.

[Natmus]

hafbaked said:

What is our stance on this? Plans to help as an alliance? Are we free to assist on individual levels?

I think we are looking of ways to help the Orcs. Not because they are the Orcs, but because using a battery of bought accounts should not succeed. I have suggested to Gorbag and Azagh that we can raze every single isle they lose to prevent their attackers from having it too easy.
Every player is free to help as they see fit. I have alreade been requested to raze two isles lost to realdeal: 1:29:23 and 1:20:1.

Once more I think it's one of those times where we have to act, because if we don't we will be next on the menu of the cheaters.