Sol
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Post by Sol on Sept 25, 2007 22:34:10 GMT
I follow Marc into battle, regardless. I've expressed my concern about this not being a "Just War", but having said my $0.02, I reiterate that I follow Marc into battle regardless. As I do anyone who carries a Morkin Quadvirant alliance tag. Hmmmm... Although I think we should save our fleets for something more meaningful, I am with Clause on this one as well. I'll help Darth Vader (aka Ashimar). Like my aztec fathers before me, I am thirsty for blood and I'm dying of boredom.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Sept 25, 2007 22:36:25 GMT
Under these circumstances i don't see Morkin or Luxor or KoM entering the war. 1. If Ashimar really attacked some other isle, it was out of line. 2. If we "Smite the Orcs like a rotten cow" thats far from being a honorable war. 3. Killing the Orcs makes this server more boring place. Indeed
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Ruku
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Post by Ruku on Sept 25, 2007 22:37:30 GMT
Exactly what I thought, our fleets could be used in a much more sizable war
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Post by Cait_Sith on Sept 25, 2007 22:39:41 GMT
Sorry about the col attempts Was a bit too busy to keep on top of all the attacks I'd sent out. There wasn't any cats though, so no harm done. I'm not up to scratch on the policies (new at any rate) of Morkin and the Quadrative, so I'll follow whatever orders the admins ask of me.
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Sept 25, 2007 22:41:47 GMT
Under these circumstances i don't see Morkin or Luxor or KoM entering the war. 1. If Ashimar really attacked some other isle, it was out of line. 2. If we "Smite the Orcs like a rotten cow" thats far from being a honorable war. 3. Killing the Orcs makes this server more boring place. To avert said war someone would need to be pretty savvy on the talking to Orc side of things and it would have to be made clear that as far as we're aware Makari should have informed us of that incoming attack. I pretty much agree with your first point; but as far as I know that fleet will hit and if Orc are true to their word Ashimar will also get attacked. Thats something I will fight for
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Sept 25, 2007 22:43:57 GMT
"Operation Falseflag - killing the free spirits"
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FrieZ
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Post by FrieZ on Sept 25, 2007 22:45:14 GMT
Ashimar should have all our backing whether it was out of line or not. I sick of orcs doing what they like. They might make the Official forums that little bit more interesting but they a permanent annoyance to most in game. Agreed.
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Sol
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Post by Sol on Sept 25, 2007 22:46:39 GMT
Well, what is this "sizable war" ?!
Ok, maybe I am getting a bit hotheaded here. Maybe its just me, but, I get the impression we'll never go to "sizable war" unless we are called upon....cos we're a bunch of sissies and too afraid to attack..DIGG. lol yeah I said it!
If it were up to me, I'd drop the pact we have with them now. But no...we needs months to discuss whether we like DIGG or not. Talk talk talk talk talk...talk...talk...no action..talk talk.
waaaaaa! Ok...i shoudln't complain. This is a peaceful alliance after all.
sigh
I'm going to go take a time out now. Sorry for the rant.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Sept 25, 2007 23:02:52 GMT
I need a diplomat... who's going to prevent this?
* The original isle belongs to Teris, but compensation will be paid. * Ashimars retaliation was (in my books) premature. We need to accept some Orc upset due that.
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FrieZ
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Post by FrieZ on Sept 25, 2007 23:05:15 GMT
I need a diplomat... who's going to prevent this? * The original isle belongs to Teris, but compensation will be paid. * Ashimars retaliation was (in my books) premature. We need to accept some Orc upset due that. I would be more than willing to work this case, just send me an IGM if you feel I am worthy and give me the goals I need to accomplish and my options for "compensation" to approach them with.
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Null
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Post by Null on Sept 25, 2007 23:15:56 GMT
I'll gladly follow and support whatever Morkin decides, including if its to support Ashimar and go to war. I must say though, it does irk me a bit that we may go to an alliance wide war in support of someone who was so close to selling their account (to RK), and still as of this moment has his intent to sell the account on his PD, and it appears would indeed sell if the right offer was made. Nothing personal at all against Ashimar....I know he's done way more for this alliance than I could imagine, just thought I'd mention its a little....hmm...I don't know what to put there
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Sept 25, 2007 23:16:11 GMT
Please try... Just probe their general feelings at first.
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Clausewitz
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Post by Clausewitz on Sept 25, 2007 23:16:22 GMT
I've got some pretty solid relations with a handful of the Orcs.
Somebody drop me an IGM if they want some "backchannel chatter" to defuse the situation...
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McGoogus
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Post by McGoogus on Sept 25, 2007 23:16:56 GMT
I'll take it if no one from Morkin will. It probably won't be easy. I've never negotiated with an Orc and I'm not sure it's possible. Plus, we don't have much information on Ashimar's role in this and if he'll continue to fight. I highly doubt that Orc will say "okay Ashmiar, mulligan," and I'm sure there will be consequences.
The question is, do we let Ashimar go it alone for instigating, or do we stand beside him regardless?
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Sept 25, 2007 23:21:46 GMT
Well if its going to be war, we, of course, stand united. But going to war is the wrong thing to do, IMHO.
And please, do whatever you can, from back door or from front door, experienced or not, diplomat or not.
May be war anyway but we should at least try to do the right thing.
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