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Post by 2kcastle on Aug 7, 2007 21:17:56 GMT
this is prometheus's version of events :
Threatening behavior. Threatening to suicide on an admin of another alliance.
I will give you some specifics.
CaptianCadaver has joined [KoM] after a dispute with us admins over here at [Pantheon]. He threatened to suicide on Dionysus. He was very rude, and all we asked for was his e-mail address so that we could verify him on the external forums.
Theres no mention of dasneal at all, I've asked him if he thinks a bit of name calling warrants an alliance wide response and asked why dionysus isn't handling this himself.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 21:18:34 GMT
Even I never see that thread; I have however directed him to it (and suggest he not mail you for validation even thought that might have been faster ). I can activate in cases like this.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 21:21:59 GMT
Okeanos:
I wonder what was written during the weekend? He applied on friday 3rd.
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2kcastle
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Post by 2kcastle on Aug 7, 2007 21:38:01 GMT
I think i can help out with that question ! i asked prometheus for the mails that were sent to kick all this off.
Dionysus wrote: ----------
Yeah, but I can't see why you won't just acknowledge that is your e-mail address. I run the forums, I can always play back.....
Dionysus \
CaptianCadaver wrote: ----------
Its not that I wount acknowledge that its my e-mail, I would rather F with people then give straight answers. Also it was my magic 8-ball day. So all decisions made that day were made by the 8 ball.
Dionysus wrote: ----------
Well, I can F with you back. I am trying to do a job here and make sure that people are verified and I don't know you from adam, so if you don't verify your e-mail address with me, I actually WILL boot you from the server. :-)
Dionysus
CaptianCadaver wrote: ----------
Really dont care. Do whatever you feel you have to do. I would hate to see you leave.
Dionysus wrote: ----------
What is so difficult with this for you? I've been nothing but nice in trying to do the forums validation. We host the server for the forums for FREE and do a lot of work to provide free services to memebers of the alliance. Why won't you just verify your e-mail address?
Dionysus
CaptianCadaver wrote: ----------
Firstly no one tells me what to do, second you are a guest in my alliance. I built this alliance from nothing. So honestly I have no reason to prove anythung to you. I foy uwant to know any information feel free to contact my right hand man DasNeal.
The messages weren't sent like that, they were jumbled up and i've put them in order to make it easier to read. he also sent this but it doesnt relate to any of the other messages :
CaptianCadaver 4 days ago RE: Update Does everyone relize that this would be a personal war and not a alliance action? I am getting really tired of these Fottuto! idiots from Angel. Like I told you before this merger was a bad idea. So honestly the next spy i get i will have a war with that individual. Make sure that they know that. I still dont know why you dont have my back on this Merda!. Just FYI. If all goes bad i will let Orc have my isles and use them.
If he finds anymore he's going to send them to me and i'll post them. I get the feeling this guy has pissed off a lot of people with a lot of different issues and now he's been kicked from the alliance they are taking their chances.
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Post by eproxy on Aug 7, 2007 21:54:14 GMT
Looks like he was been arrogant then; plus he never mentioned any of this in his application (although since it appears to still have been under discussion over the weekend he might not have known about the impending attacks).
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Post by Natmus on Aug 7, 2007 21:56:48 GMT
If that's all, it pretty much confirms my suspicions. Some greedy players just found a victim they can steal some isles from. To me I think we should defend CC, even if he isn't my favorite type of person.
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Post by Clausewitz on Aug 7, 2007 21:59:15 GMT
I'm game. Still tanked up (relatively, for o14 standards). If you want to play brinksmanship with them on this issue, count me among those standing ready to unleash the Hounds.
It takes more than 5 days of vultures making the mistake of picking at my unaffiliated account to put me into a rearm mode.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 22:03:51 GMT
Nevertheless he should present himself here.
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Post by 2kcastle on Aug 7, 2007 22:12:58 GMT
Apart from a good opportunity to see how pantheon react to us standing against them what do we gain from this ? If those mails are genuine and captain cadaver is as arrogant and obstructive as he comes across he's not going to last 2 weeks in KoM, so we'll be defending him for nothing. He should have told us about this when he applied! Thats what question 13 on our application is there for. And do we really believe that a 22 year old, free mason who owns his own business had a " magic 8 ball day " where the decisions he made all came from some stupid 1980's toy that wasn't even good when it came out ? I say we throw him to the wolves, he's not our problem and he'll be no assett to us if we save him.
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Post by eproxy on Aug 7, 2007 22:55:24 GMT
Looks like he does have a mature/reasonable side... I suggested he message either Arminius or Natmus regarded further forum validification.
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Post by Freiegeister on Aug 7, 2007 23:19:53 GMT
This was originally a dispute with Dionysus alone: I think the resolution should be that he deal with it. If an admin of an alliance cannot stand up for himself with getting all his mates to gang bash someone they do not deserve that role. No direct attacks from other players but they can support if they wish. We support CC and enforce this if required. If Pantheon slips they go down.
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Post by Cait_Sith on Aug 7, 2007 23:29:42 GMT
Anyone can be reduced to being petty and childish if pestered for long enough. I'm usually pretty mature and patient, but when I've been telling people something over and over and they still do something that turns out bad, despite what I've told them - it bothers me when they complain about it, especially when they direct it at me. Surely an admin doesn't have to be hassled about something like his email by someone coming into his alliance from the outside against his wishes.
Edit: Spelling
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 23:38:04 GMT
What if he apologizes for his words, even if he was entitled to them, and we all avoid WW2, and i can enjoy the little there is left of the summer and of my marriage ;D
EDIT: I wrote it in wrong person at first...
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Post by Sol on Aug 8, 2007 1:40:55 GMT
Before I send my ships to some lonely isle, I would first like to hear from CC...
He should seriously come to the forums.
*sigh*
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Post by Cait_Sith on Aug 8, 2007 2:03:59 GMT
I think waiting to hear what he has to say is causing half the problem here. Reading it over, this is one of the worst reasons I've ever heard for attacking someone apart from just being a bit peeved about something.
And I don't think he's said anywhere he's going to even suicide. Just that he'd have a personal war with anyone who spys him... Which is pretty reasonable, considering it looks like they're going to colonise him anyway. I got that he was going to give his demolished isles to Orc if the war didn't go his way rather than letting them colonise him from the last part - not that he would suicide the admins or let Orc use his isles to suicide the admins...
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