eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Aug 7, 2007 10:15:41 GMT
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Aug 7, 2007 11:08:43 GMT
He's talking bullshit. What has CC actually done? NOTHING! NADA! ZIP! ZIPPE-DI-ZIP! It's all just an excuse for those isle-greedy buggers to get some (they think) easy isles. Ask him for concrete proof of any damage he has done to them, or tell him to bugger off. You can tell him I said so
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digital
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Post by digital on Aug 7, 2007 12:16:35 GMT
This 48 hour rule is bull as well, this may take longer than that.
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2kcastle
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Post by 2kcastle on Aug 7, 2007 17:06:06 GMT
If their deadline runs out and they push for an answer we'll tell them to get stuffed while we decide about it ! one of their diplomats contacted us about this so ive mailed him to see if we can get an agreement about it. has captain cadaver said anything about this yet ?
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Aug 7, 2007 17:53:42 GMT
CaptainCadaver did recieve two attacks prior to entry into [KoM] and 'svs_doc' just yesterday attacked; albeit under the pretense of a mistake (see below mail), I'd perhaps believe him.
In the mean time I just got this from a second admin with whom I've not corresponded before.
Again this certainly looks like an ultimatum and not a request.
So we have only a few options.
1) Let Pantheon take CC's isles and use his non declarance of the issue our 'excuse'. Regardless of the reason Pantheon will probably see us as 'easy' targets in the future.
2) Say no. We give CaptainCadaver our full backing and perhaps risk war with Pantheon. One which personally I believe we could win using pscy tactics.
3) Agree a price for Pantheon to pay (ie. X number of isles). This is really just a half-assed version of option 1.
Personally I'd rather fight than be seen as malleable.
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2kcastle
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Post by 2kcastle on Aug 7, 2007 18:41:01 GMT
Prometheus is a prat :
Prometheus 42 minutes ago
I don't want to give you too many details, as the situation may be resolved soon anyway.
Whats the point in mailing us if he doesnt want to give any details ? This guys stupidity aside I dont want to end up fighting to protect captain cadaver when he didnt even mention any of this in his application, and as of yet i dont think i've seen a single post by him on these forums ?
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 19:57:58 GMT
I don't think anykind of Pro-CaptainCadaver resolution would be reasonable if he doesn't show here within this red minute and speak for himself... and pretty well.
I'll ask for more time. I have no pride in that sense that i would have to rebel against Pantheons time limit. Clearly there is an issue that has started before him joining in, so Pantheon has rights as well in this matter.
Someone get that CC here, quick!
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Aug 7, 2007 20:12:25 GMT
I'll ask him how his signing up on the forums is going. In the mean time;
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 20:16:34 GMT
If that is so i think we should allow DasNeal to attack if he want but no other.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 20:26:08 GMT
Few pointers:
ProPantheon: 1) This obviously started before he joined in. 2) He has not turned to our forum to speak for himself. 3) He did not mention of this in his application.
Pro CC: 1) His crime was only words. Taking islands or annihilating someone for words seems extremely harsh. If we should accept actions against him we should know all that he said and to whom.
2) He applied on 3rd of august, was let in on 6th. When was he expelled and why didn't you attack before 6th? (We need to make sure from now on that every application process lasts for at least 5 days from application to acceptance, unless something special)
My personal view (that does not represent Morkin stance) is that i would let those he has offended to attack him, but no one else, as this is clearly a personal issue. Attacking with whole alliance seems just unfair overkill.
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Aug 7, 2007 20:53:40 GMT
He's apparently signed up on the forum but can only see the public area. Someone needs to verify his account (I don't think I can do it, if I can I don't know how).
As for the application process; we usually give it 48 hours, any longer and risked being forgotten about.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 20:55:00 GMT
I would strongly emphasize quality over quantity, and longer waiting times may have that impact and they may filter out some problems, but im not sure how it would effect.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 20:55:59 GMT
He's apparently signed up on the forum but can only see the public area. Someone needs to verify his account (I don't think I can do it, if I can I don't know how). As for the application process; we usually give it 48 hours, any longer and risked being forgotten about. If he can't read the "readmefirst" by himself and act accordingly them "off with his head" i say.
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Post by eproxy on Aug 7, 2007 21:08:24 GMT
Even I never see that thread; I have however directed him to it (and suggest he not mail you for validation even thought that might have been faster ). In the mean time I heard he was under attack: Considering that Okeanos said we'd have 48 hours, and that 48 hours isn't up I sent both him and Dionysus a rather nice little message. Hopefully not too aggressive but I was rather p!ssed off, even if we do decide to cut CC totally loose (I hope he gets on here soon). And a reply (note: god knows why they put the "CC" at the bottom of their posts, they both do it). A quick note to make would be that this fleet sent against CaptainCadaver was most likely launched in the last 24 hours. Depending on the isle he sent it to it might even be in the last 12 hours.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 7, 2007 21:17:00 GMT
Okeanos wrote: ----------
No problems. We stand by our promises and will neither launch or attack in the agreed 48h. I believe there are 24 or so hours left on that, btw.
~ Das
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Shendemiar wrote: ----------
What i meant was that it may delay beyond the time limit given.
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Okeanos wrote: ----------
Thank you for your reply. Pantheon would like to hold to the original deadline. 48-hours is adequate and more than respectful to your members being busy during the Summer.
All the same, we are considerate of extenuating circumstances. If MORKIN absolutely cannot meet by this deadline then I can poll the admins for an extension.
~ Das
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Shendemiar wrote: ----------
The matter is being discussed with increasing intensity.
If you could provide what he have said to whom (and when, thats very important) and any other evidence you feel that might help Pantheon.
When exactly he was expelled? Why didn't you attack him prior to his acceptance into Kom (6th august) ?
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All this happened over the course of the end of last week and the weekend. I kept putting the brakes on it to save my friend. Maybe that explains the delay.
I will see what I can dig up but understand Pantheon is not interested in a referee here. That point has been passed.
~ Das
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The more i talk to this fellow the more annoying he seems... But i'm going to hold my mouth for now, and i advice everyone else should too. Lets see what he can dig up.
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