Attack on Pharos Nova (Perun) by Donkey

[Natmus]

Marc, perhaps you don't need to talk to LordStyles, as he sent me this:

Message
Date: 04.02.2006 15:22
From: LordStyles
Subject: RE: RE: Response
Ah it appears you are right, I owe you an appology so here goes...

SORRY

I see your reasons for attacking Donkey and that this is his war and not ours.

You may take any isles he stole back, yet don't go too far (nicking any more isles) keep it clean people.

Compensation won't be required

Chris

Donkey wrote:
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It is pretty much true what he said, just not the part about running and hiding. Our alliance is all about taking over colonies and starting wars but if no one wants to help I will be fine, Its okay seriously it doesnt matter. Compensation wont be necessary at all if I manage to get through this.

[shirak]

Here's my contribution.Shame about that lone spearfighter.


Attack report
from 04.02.2006 19:50
Offence Units Ansalon (6:84:2)
Total Losses
Large Warship 225 0
Stone Thrower 35 0
Spearfighter 500 1
Archer 250 0
Catapult 29 0
Defence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Stone Thrower 1 1
Archer 6 6
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Stone Quarry Level 16 (Destruction: 1)
Watch-Tower Level 1 (Destruction: 16)


Attack report
from 04.02.2006 19:52
Offence Units Ansalon (6:84:2)
Total Losses
Large Warship 225 0
Stone Thrower 35 0
Spearfighter 500 0
Archer 250 0
Catapult 29 0
Defence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Stone Quarry Level 15 (Destruction: 1)
Harbour Level 1 (Destruction: 18)

[Arminius]

Wow, respect, somebody who says 'sorry'! I'm impressed.

[Natmus]

The latest in the discussion with LordStyles. If we just don't launch any other new attacks, apart from taking Pharos Nova back, they won't make an issue of it:

Message
Date: 04.02.2006 18:55
From: LordStyles
Subject: RE: RE: Response
Just no other attacks after those and everyones happy

Natmus wrote:
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Hello again.

I'm glad you can see it from our point of view. I'm afraid telling us not to take any of Donkey's other colonies are a bit late, the ships are on the way to at least two isles.
As he gave one colony away to one of his friends, we guessed he was quitting the game, and using his fleets for revenge, and to get them out of the way for his friends to pick up the rest of the colonies. We decided to act fast.

Natmus

[SkulkrinBait]

So we kicked Culo!, I mean Donkey?

[ashimar]

...Damn....

I had just rtyped in a full page of rhetorics. And then I was logged out and my text was gone. I guess that saves you all a lot of reading.

The synopsis then:

No surrender, no retreat.

Too much blood has already been spent and we need compensation for our losses too. His colonies. All of them.

Frei -> hitting Booty Bay
Alex -> colonizing Plunder Place
Me -> colonizing Coral Cove
Andre -> supporting my effort

I'm sure other are interested in Diesal Isle and Igor must buid a colonyship to take back Pharos Nova.

[ashimar]

Deciding to evacuate the fleet and some Britneys proved prudent:

Attack report
from 05.02.2006 01:47
Offence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Large Warship 76 32
Archer 380 162
Catapult 20 9
Defence Units Trorn - property of Ashimar (15:14:1)
Total Losses
Stone Thrower 864 864
Spearfighter 15 15
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0

Pity that those stoners die so easily, but okay, nearly half his fleets + carts gone and no structural damage done.

The sod must have forgotten to select a target for his catapults, ha !!!!!!

And now I am going to calculate when this felltremnant of his returns to it's harbour so that my fleet arrives 30 seconds after that in order to annihilate it once and for all.

[ashimar]

Andre's tiny catforce did a nice job (I don't trust walls while colonizing, somehow it diminishes your chances):

Attack report
from 05.02.2006 04:00
Offence Units Wisle (22:87:2)
Total Losses
Large Warship 22 5
Small Warship 35 7
Spearfighter 67 14
Archer 113 23
Catapult 13 3
Defence Units Cardofal Bright-flame (13:63:25)
Total Losses
Large Warship 3 3
Spearfighter 62 62
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
Stone Wall Level 3 (Destruction: 14)

followed indeed 3 seconds later by this of mine:

Attack report
from 05.02.2006 04:00
Colonisation successful!
Offence Units The Mighty 6th Fleet (14:49:23)
Total Losses
Large Warship 30 0
Small Warship 30 0
Colonisation Ship 1 1
Spearfighter 105 0
Archer 105 0
Catapult 5 0
Defence Units Cardofal Bright-flame (13:63:25)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction

YES !!!!!!! A NEW COLONY AND A NICE ONE TOO !!!!!!

Now, how to keep it....


And then somewhat later, the last of Frei's attacks (aimed at now non-existant harbour):

Attack report
from 05.02.2006 05:58
Offence Units Elenil (1:78:14)
Total Losses
Large Warship 511 0
Small Warship 65 0
Small Merchant Ship 5 0
Spearfighter 1000 0
Archer 1000 0
Catapult 52 0
Defence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Stone Thrower 4 4
Plundered Resources
Gold 89
Stone 0
Lumber 911
Destruction
Gold Mine Level 1 (Destruction: 2)
Lumber Mill Level 18 (Destruction: 1)

He had still rebuild his goldmine 2 levels again. Naughty boy.

There's one final attack on Booty Bay that I ordered from MMU-Patton's account, targeting lumbermill:

Order Attack
Status Attack on Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Distance 79,6 Nautical Miles
Speed 5 Knots
Arrival 05.02.2006 23:49:07
Ships
Large Warship 81
Small Warship 86
Army
Spearfighter 278
Archer 239
Catapult 80

And after this I think we should not attack his main anymore except in order to catch that fleet that he sent to Soriram's Trorn. I have calculated it so that when that fleet comes home in port, it will be wiped out by my fleet 15 seconds later. It would be a neat trick of him to be able to be online and get it out that quick again. So that threat is gone too then. I hope. I still think he has one more fleet though and that one he can keep.

His main isle score had dropped from 1304 down to 174 last night and with those 80 cats of Henning I think it will indeed be 51 until he rebuilds.

Nice job people. I'm sorry about Andre's and Marios' fleets, but there was no other way and I lost more than 200 ships as well.

Now we have Alexander trying to colonize Plunder Palace. I don't know if that's wise. But it's underway. What do we do with Diesal Isle ? It's a nice colony and only 1300 spears now.

Remember, Grover, Parwez, Ratem and Ships eat all isles if we tell them.

[ashimar]

I had written to the Hermes admin already, but didn't finish my mails due to Sophie (my daughter). I have now.

Sorry Mads for messing with it, but I wanted to exploit the reign of terror a bit further (after all, with all our losses so far, we must get something back and secure it as well):

Date: 04.02.2006 16:51
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey - The Apocalypse
Hello there,

I got word you had some things to say regarding Donkey. I read it and I now have a lot to say to you about that. I'll start by showing you a series of messages. Watch the senders and the dates.

I'll go into details later this evening.

Donkey likes to bother me from time to time, since we won the war with his former alliance:

Date: 30.01.2006 23:17
From: Donkey
Subject: Hey
So whats going on in Morkin?

followed by:

Date: 31.01.2006 01:38
From: Donkey
Subject: Sry for all the messages
Sorry for any times that I have been really rude to you, but Im just a pleasureploey kid who goes crazy to easily over games, I gotta control my swearing (sometimes) and think about the people in there actual lives and how I would like to have been treated and do the same.
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Date: 05.02.2006 06:37
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey -2
This is from Natmus:

Date: 31.01.2006 19:37
From: Donkey
Subject: RE: RE: Hello again
Ya I was joking I didnt really think he was inactive but I hoped he was, and as long as I can weaken Morkins armies when everyone attacks then Ill be a happy camper, a dead one but still happy.

Natmus wrote:
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He was away over the weekend. Now he is back and seriously upset.
The whole of Morkin is going to get you now, and finish what we started before christmas.

Donkey wrote:
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Oh... sry, but I thought hes inactive.

Natmus wrote:
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How about those attacks on Perun?


Date: 05.02.2006 06:40
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey -3
He didn't think Perun was inactive, but he just did what he wanted. He admits it there, you see ?

After his 2 recent messages to me I sent him the following warning, which should be quite obvious to anyone with brains:

Date: 31.01.2006 02:01
To: Donkey
Subject: RE: Hey
I feel magnanimous today, so I'm going to let you in on a few details.

I had this kid calling on my IK door some time ago and he kept pulling that doorbell, very annoying because I was correcting some stuff at the time.

The same evening Parwez, Shipper and Ratem happened to drop by, asking wether I had heard of any fresh colonies for take-over recently. I said I hadn't, everything was pretty quiet at the time, until I remembered that persistant kid pulling my doorbell. He had some nice colonies, not too far away either and so I decided the next time he would bother me again, I would give I disagreeociates a call to say I had just found some nice beaches.

Two weeks later, that kid had only his main island and was calling people names because it was all he could do.

This actually happened, but there is a deeper meaning to me telling you this story; having contacts is nice, as long as you always try to remember some people have even better contacts, there's always a bigger fish out there and nothing is exactly what it seems...

Now go do your homework and let me do mine.


Date: 05.02.2006 06:51
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey -4
That last bit was still from the message to Donkey, I wasn't talking to you.

Now you seem like a young but intelligent and well spoken kid (excuse me, but I'm 36) and I'm sure you can grasp the concept that at the moment I and a lot of fellow Morkins can come only to this conclusion: "Donkey needs to be removed from the board completely, lest he simply rebuilds and starts all over again"

You can count on it that if we would only taken back the stolen colony of Perun (now "Mine, all mine") and started asking for compensation from him (you break a vase, you pay for it in full, is the example I always use) which I'm sure he wouldn't give and which would be a tedious affair, that he would do something else in a few months time. He is looking for trouble with us ever since the E~L war ended. Before he was in Hermes even. I have ignored him or given only short replies, but this has to stop right here and right now !

We have lost colonies and ships and men during the war, we want to peacefully rebuild, we can't do that with that persistent clown in our backyard. So the clown has to go. Utterly and permanently. I will not allow him to rebuild for some time. And he has only himself to blame for that. I do hope you can see that.

Date: 05.02.2006 07:01
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey -5
Morkin is not like Hermes or most other alliances. We don't do bullying, we do not steal colonies people have worked hard for.
And we are not hierarchical. You may think you made a deal with Natmus but Natmus still has to confer with us to hear what we think of it before it is passed. anyone else can also take control of Morkin's military as any admiral, admin or member and start acting. Do you understand ?

Donkey has had a reply from Perun stating that he was active and I can confirm that he builds every day, so it's bullnuts what Donkey says. As you can see from the very first 2 messages that I sent you of his, he is either cheeky and flippant or he tries to give the impression that he's complying and humble, but he doesn't mean a word of it. He thinks he can fool people many years older and more experienced than he is. He may believe that he can pull that off, but do you ?

We have lost lots of materials because of both his actions towards us (while you were writing to Natmus he simply launched another attack on Soiram's colony that is reserved for takeover by me. Trying to destroy buildings. ) and ours trying to neutralize the threat he poses. We are therefore not going to let him get away with his original colonies anymore. I already succeeded in colonizing one and two other colonyships of others are still moving. We levelled his main and will finish it until he has score 51 (now 174), there are still fleets moving at sea to accomplish that. He will not rebuild right now and bug us again.

Date: 05.02.2006 07:08
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey -6
I may sound harsh and ureasonable to you, but we are incredibly angry over this. Morkin may stay out of the R|M versus SW~E war as an operational decision, but when our interests are directly harmed by someone like Donkey or another alliance we become extremely fanatical. The friendly folks that we basically are turn into, yes, terrorists if need be.

Our plan is as follows:

Donkeys main is leveled (almost done)
Any fleet we can catch is destroyed as it is a direct threat to us and our colonies.
He gave one ocean 14 colony away - fine with us.
He will loose as spoils of war (and to give him a taste of his own Pirate medicine) his two largest colonies of which I already have one. The other colony may go to someone in Wraith. I'll explain later.
The stolen colony will be taken back by the rightful owner, Perun (Mine, all mine).
His smallest colony will go to another Morkin who lost his entire fleet against Donkey.

After that, he may start rebuilding again.

Date: 05.02.2006 07:16
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey -7
We would under normal circumstances NEVER do anything like this to anyone, but this is an exceptional case and we're almost gone "berserk" over it.

With Gibbon and JayRosie a.o. he attacked us totally out of the blue before we went to war in retaliation with E~L, never apologized, never paid anything to us. During the war I hit him once to warn him as he was close to my main. He did nothing. When peacetreaties were signed and E~L collapsed, he started getting bitter and vengeful. Thinking wrongly he could take on Morkin singlehandedly to weaken us and then get his old buddies to join in. But they want to get on with their lives, and so do we all. Except Donkey who can't let the past go. That's why were so exceptionally hard on him now.

We appreciate your apology to Natmus though. And we won't forget.
I also sympathize with your position, but this we must do. We will stop, don't worry, but not yet.

As for Ares. I have been scouted many times and all the responses were like "Oh, sorry that I spied on you mate, no hardfeelings" or "Say, wanna join Ares ?" so that should tell you something. ;~)

Date: 05.02.2006 07:27
To: LordStyles
Subject: Donkey -8
Of course Morkin is not invincible, of course not, but you have to realize that we are the type of people who are so indignified by things like these that we are quite willing to each one of us kamikaze any enemy player to make him pay dearly for any agression towards us. And on top of that we hold many favours from separate big players that we can cash in on.

I'm not trying to intimidate you, but yesterday I was talking with Grover234 all day long and I also mentioned Donkey. He said that if and when we would loose the colonies we're about to take over or when there's an island we don't want, he will take it instead. So, no one is going to benefit from Donkey's mistake but Morkin or Grover234 (and behind him in line are my friend Ratem, Azriel, LTEmpero, Shipper, Parwez, the lst goes on. I guess I was too subtle for someone like Donkey, but I'm sure Ares will not like the promise of those people in combination with Morkin's holy fanaticism

I don't expect you to kick him out. You can decide what you want. Just don't get sandwiched in the consequences.

I promise you that we will not harm any others if we're just left alone. We may even leave the smallest colony, we will have to see, but you must prepare for the fact that indeed he'll end up with nothing because of this mindless stupidity and pleasureploeiness of his.

And this one:

Date: 05.02.2006 07:47
To: Grover234
Subject: Small favour
Goodmorning "C" McCann,

We are kicking Donkey's sorry Culo!, I already took one of his colonies as war reparations for the damage he inflicted on us, and his main is leveled by the whole of Morkin, but now the Hermes admin, a very nice young boy I get the impression, says we should not do anything more because he may need to call in Ares in that case.

I already wrote extensively to him (as is my wont, ha!), but just to add some cayenne pepper, could you drop LordStyles+Donkey a line saying you will take the colonies if we fail ? Just a bit of intimidation so that they get a clearer bigger picture of Morkin and "associates".

It would take the steam out of the boiler I think. And trust me, we ARE fighting a just fight here. I would need several emails however to give you the full scope of it.

Marc

Needless to say the spying incident is resolved ;D

[Natmus]

For some reason, LordStyles think I have any kind of authority over Marc, here is what he sent to me following Marc's carpet-messaging of him (and my reply above):

Message
Date: 05.02.2006 11:06
To: LordStyles
Subject: RE: RE: Donkey -6
Have you entirely missed the point that Donkey has been trying to get this to escalate?

Donkey has an agenda of his own, it has nothing to do with Hermes, and I again suggest you eliminate him from your alliance, as he is using you for his own purposes.

Ashimar has my full support, and I ask you to read his messages carefully again to get the idea of what has happened.
As late as this night Donkey attacked again on yet another member of Morkin. AGAIN: He wants this conflict to continue.

How can you ask for us to not to attack, while he continues to do so? Given the rest of the story (he first lied about thinking Perun to be incative to you, didn't he?), don't you think he may be lying to you again? I don't understand your loyalty for a member who obviously don't feel any loyalty for you.

LordStyles wrote:
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This is not acceptable, I didn't realise you intended to almost destroy him!!!!

I thought this was about getting even, not systamatic destruction!!!

If this message (below) is true this diplomatic process is over. I've been reasonable up till now saying you could have the colony he stole and possinly compensation, not all his colonies (some which your giving to Wraith for God Sake)

Either assure me this member is talking out of his backside or face the consequences.

I mean what I write, I don't get Style's loyalty to a member lying and decieving his own alliance, and who is trying to start a war all on his own.

[ashimar]

Yeah, sorry to get you into trouble. And perhaps all of us, but some of those kids are like that, they won't want to see or hear the truth. He reminds me of Sheldons way of "tirade"; indignation without a basis.

I am trying to get Grover 234 to write a message. He is unfortunately sofar hesitant about it.

I have spied on Booty Bay and saw his fleet of 300 LW's is back in port, with some merchants but NO catapults. He delivered them I think.

He has rebuild the wall to level 3 and lumber+stone are still were they were yesterday.

I have timed my main fleet to arrive just after the fleet that attacked Trorn colony gets back in, hoping to annihilate it. If however those 300 LW's stay there it's going to be extremely painful for my 900 LW fleet with 430 cats (some of which are Igor's) - I'm safekeeping them, more or less...

With Igor's main fleet I have whacked the garrison at Mine, all mine a bit. But the wall level 15 is painful every time and Igor has only 1 cat now.
Still, I've sent it out again to prevent soldier buildup there while I'm accumulating the resources for the colonyship.
This is done more out of principle ofcourse. The truth is it is very hard to hold your colonies when they are defended to the Fottuto! teeth or something like that.

Proof of this is that some other clown, from [Empire] , has tried to colonize Trorn today. It failed, but all forces defending Trorn are gone, again. This is pretty hopeless and depressing business I must say. I am going to write to the clown to try and intimidate him a bit, but I'm not always succesful ofcourse.

Attack report
from 05.02.2006 19:34
Offence Units 09|M| Banquet (15:14:18)
Total Losses
Large Warship 101 52
Small Warship 11 6
Small Merchant Ship 60 31
Colonisation Ship 1 1
Spearfighter 527 273
Catapult 6 3
Defence Units Trorn - property of Ashimar (15:14:1)
Total Losses
Large Warship 42 42
Small Warship 19 19
Small Merchant Ship 15 15
Spearfighter 261 261
Plundered Resources
Gold 609
Stone 595
Lumber 400
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 5)

and this is the spy report from Booty Bay:

Espionage report
from 05.02.2006 15:37
Espionage successful!
Offence Units The Mighty 6th Fleet (14:49:23)
Total Losses
Small Warship 1 0
Defence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Large Warship 300 0
Small Merchant Ship 71 0
Buildings
Main House Level 1
Gold Mine Level 1
Stone Quarry Level 15
Lumber Mill Level 18
Laboratory Level 1
Barracks Level 1
Harbour Level 1
Storehouse Level 1
Stone Wall Level 3
Watch-Tower Level 1
Statue Level 1
Research
Spear Level 10
Shield Level 10
Bow Level 10
Catapult Level 10
Sail Level 10
Resources
Gold 213
Stone 1200
Lumber 1200

In the meantime I have made a deal with TurinTurambar of [MoMe] to lend me additional stoners to help consolidate Cardofal Bright-flame. I already transported 2000 stoners there myself. I ofcourse expect heel to break loose there as well.

On another front, Alexander's colonizationattempt of Plunder Palace failed. But f I may say so, how is he going to defend that colony anyway ?

I'm getting a bit tired with all this "dung".

[ashimar]

Ooops,

Forgotten that MMU-Patton's fleet (sent out by me to set the record straight) was targeting lumbermill on Booty Bay. That is somewhat painful, now that two fleets of Donkey are in port suddenly:

Attack report
from 05.02.2006 23:49
Offence Units Korkith (1:56:6)
Total Losses
Large Warship 81 63
Small Warship 86 67
Spearfighter 278 216
Archer 239 186
Catapult 80 62
Defence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Large Warship 344 344
Small Merchant Ship 71 71
Archer 218 218
Catapult 11 11
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Gold Mine Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
Lumber Mill Level 1 (Destruction: 17)
Stone Wall Level 1 (Destruction: 2)

Still, you got the entire fleet there !

On the other hand, 62 cats lost...

...?!...and guess what ? I've made another timing mistake. It looks like the fleet that attacked Trorn is already back, but my fleet is still one hour away. No matter, with 300 ships there already Henning was screwed anyway.

Want 50 cats from me as compensation perhaps ?

[mmupatton]

Yes, that was a lot of cats lost. But we did get his fleet, which is what matters-

You aren't suggesting to compensate my losses, are you? I mean, that's what happens in a war game, I'll just rebuild, again

[ashimar]

mmupatton said:

Yes, that was a lot of cats lost. But we did get his fleet, which is what matters-

You aren't suggesting to compensate my losses, are you? I mean, that's what happens in a war game, I'll just rebuild, again

Thanks, that was indeed what I was suggesting

I'm still not over the los of my Zerin fleet. Of 330 ships only 121 returned.
Yeah, I know, I'm a miser...

My overdue fleet now had very little to do, but if I'm not mistaken we finally got that island down to score 51 with this:

Attack report
from 06.02.2006 04:20
Offence Units The Mighty 6th Fleet (14:49:23)
Total Losses
Large Warship 900 0
Spearfighter 2800 0
Archer 1400 0
Catapult 430 0
Defence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Gold Mine Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
Stone Quarry Level 1 (Destruction: 14)

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Attack report
from 06.02.2006 04:21
Offence Units The Mighty 6th Fleet (14:49:23)
Total Losses
Large Warship 20 0
Stone Thrower 100 0
Catapult 20 0
Defence Units Booty Bay (13:73:4)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction

[ashimar]

But now te big questions;
what are we going to do with the rest of his isles ?

Diesal Isle -> someone should take that isle and leave the much smaller and strategically weakly orientated Plunder Palace to the Donkey, perhaps as some small bargaining change for Hermes admin LordStyles.

Mine, all mine -> It's Igor's, so we take it back. Colonyship almost on the constructionline and with some help he'll take it back. Defending it is however another matter...

This would leave donkey with his main levelled and Plunder Palace more or less intact, and no fleet to harass us anytime soon.

If he keeps Diesal Isle we'll be hearing from him again I think. If no one wants Diesal Isle (Mads ? Davids I+II ?) then we will have to make it so that another player takes it instead. It cannot stay in Donkey's hands.

But that's my opinion ofcourse.