[Call to arms] R|M v. SW

[Natmus]

From -Duke-/Anton:

Message
Date: 30.01.2006 15:04
From: -Duke-
Subject: sw....
i have talked to berlinermc and he admitted that they have reserved R|M islands on their tool. that means R|M has to defend ourself. we will attack them tomorrow or the day after ( our diplomat was hacked, which is Fottuto! annoying).

can you support us? we are not going to attack sw in ocean 15, or only if you want us to. so could you attack in ocean 15? we are gonna attack in ocean 3,4 and 13.

we are also going to contact F&S and ask if they could help us.

anton

my reply:

Message
Date: 30.01.2006 15:35
To: -Duke-
Subject: RE: sw....
Yes, I guess we can.

How hard should we hit them? Are the attacks a warning, or total war?

Anybody in particular we should hit, or anyone we shouldn't hit?

Message
Date: 30.01.2006 15:37
From: -Duke-
Subject: RE: RE: sw....
thank you mads.

it depends on how strong you are. and you can hit whoever you want but i'd like Berlinermc to be hit. i have 1,8k large warships in ocean 15. i could send them under your comman as softening up attacks.

Message
Date: 30.01.2006 15:49
To: -Duke-
Subject: RE: RE: RE: sw....
No problem, Anton.

I'll send messages around to our war council to get planning started.

What I would like to know is if this a 'battle to the death' or if it has a limited objective, like getting off SW's list of colonisable isles.

Also, what about Wraith and ~N~ that you mentioned? Are they fighting?

Finally, what is that colonisationtool that SW mention on most of their profiles? Simply a list of isles they want?

Mads

Did you hear that, War Council? We have to get some planning started. Who is ready for a fight in ocean 15?

Message
Date: 30.01.2006 15:51
From: -Duke-
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: sw....
this colotool is a programm which shows the ik map as a whole, with all islands on it and so on. it's not bad.

i have contacted a mate in ~N~, but he hasnt read it yet. and wraith? eriol seems to be scared. as soon as they got rid of us, other alliances will be next, berlinermc is aggressive.

[mmupatton]

Oh well. He has 1800 LWs and would like our help. Great. I have 75 LWs

I will help. This game is boring the s*** out of me. Someone assign me a target (remember, I am in ocean 1 !) and a time, and those 75 LWs will meet the cliffs off that island like the spanish armada

[Highlander]

i am in same boat current strength is



Army
Stone Thrower (558)
Spearfighter (500)
Archer (500)
Catapult (2)

Ships
Large Warship (179)
Large Merchant Ship (30)
Small Warship (1)
Small Merchant Ship (13)

i am in ocean 4 so just tell me what to aim for

[Raven]

31:19:9

Army
Stone Thrower (203)
Spearfighter (2030)
Archer (1000)
Catapult (164)

Ships
Large Warship (344)
Large Merchant Ship (27)
Small Warship (24)
Small Merchant Ship (50)

If R|M cannot handle this alone then what difference is morkin going to make?

If berlinerMC and the rest of [SW|Elite] decide to call in their pacts and join in then it looks like it will go bad for us

I have 3 relatively well defended colonies in ocean 15

[Natmus]

raven said:

If R|M cannot handle this alone then what difference is morkin going to make?

Good question. I don't think this is going to be a full 'to-the-death' war, but more a test of determination. What we need to do, as I see it, is to make a display of unity and determination, and show our ability to cause damage to the opposition, more damage than they are willing to take, and at the same time disregard our own losses.

Anyway, we have a pact with R|M, and they have given us full support in the past when we asked for it. I think we owe it to them, but even so participation in attacks should be voluntary. We have been given BerlinerMC as a target, and I think he is a fitting target for us at our current strength. He even has a few new colonies, so even the smaller fleets have a target.

[Raven]

Are we co-ordinating in the same way as we did for Gibbon?

[Natmus]

When I see how many report for duty, probably yes.

caz of R|M is offering help with scouting members of SW15, in particular tfstorm.

[Shendemiar]

Im too just a drop of rabbitshit with my forces. I think ill skip this one and maybe in few months time (if there is any of us still left) i will participate some ongoing effort.

[Freiegeister]

natmus said:

When I see how many report for duty, probably yes.

caz of R|M is offering help with scouting members of SW15, in particular tfstorm.

MajorDefect will be reporting for duty.

[mmupatton]

And just to be clear, MMU-Patton is reporting for duty.

Anyone know how James_Bond was hacked? Just brute-force password attack?

[ashimar]

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<there goeth my armada>

[ashimar]

I have endeavoured the following longshot, it needs ofcourse follow ups from Mads, Oliver (did you not have a personal pact with BerlinerMC ?), me and others, but there is an opening here, like Mads said, they just need to see the full scope of it.

Date: 31.01.2006 07:16
To: Raul
Subject: R|M war impending ?
Hi Raul,

Is there anyway to call off this madness of waging an extermination war between R|M and SW Elite ?

It would involve all pacts, and I really am busy with other things right now, like a certain donkey who cannot let the past rest.

We are already at defcon 1, selecting possible targets, but personally I think it would be just a sheer destruction of resources, time and effort on all sides.

Alternatively, how about some old E~L isles ? I have this obnoxious kid not wanting to let go, and I thought of giving him over to Ratem or Ships.

Oh, and Azriel of HOD and I have engaged in a pact.

Marc

and:

Date: 31.01.2006 07:24
From: Raul
Subject: R|M v S|W
I agree Ashimar
It is all total madness and it would be a terrible war. R|M had provoked the war by spying on member isles. We had plenty of intelligence they were after our ocean 3 members so we decided to make a stand and struck back and send a clear message that those who touched our members would face SW. We did not wish to be like LSD to sit and let people chip away at our members by taking their isles. I know that you will have to honour your pacts. I know this war would destroy many as Firefox and now SW traditionally fight under the black flag and R|M have a similar outlook.
R|M struck last night and I beat off 6 attacks. S|W has also assembled our allies and protectors. I am open to alternatives to resolve this war.
Raul

[ashimar]

And then this one:

Not quite the response I had expected and hoped for though...

Date: 31.01.2006 08:18
From: ratem
Subject: RE: Donkey
Colt357 is already wiped out
he don´t has a big fleet because i leveled his main down and colonised all his colonies
that was during the war between Morkin and E~L

it would be cool if Morkin could kill BerlinerMC!
his defence is very low and he is one of the heads of SW!

sure i will help Duke
he is a good friend

we need to coordinate attacks so let me know when you guys are starting!

cheers

Ashimar wrote:
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Hello Ratem,

I know you masy or may not be preoccupied with the impending war between SW Elite and R|M. Anton (Duke) has informed us as pactpartners. I can only assume you may want to help him as well.

Still, I got to ask you wether you would be interested in teaming up with me and the rest of Morkin in removing Donkey (former E~L, like Colt357 !) from the playingboard.

He seems to be angry at us foor what we did to E~L and he's now thinking he can profit from us being caught up in the new war. My idea is as follows: I can level all his isles but it will cost me. I cannot take anymore isles (my wife would kill me), so how about we jointly wipe him out and you take the colonies and I get some cats for my losses and the war I need to get involved in. Is that an interesting idea or are you not interested ?

If not, Morkin will try to colonize or destroy him, but the timing sucks.

Marc / Ashimar

I'll think I'll send him another mail to stress it's Donkey we want taken care of as well.

[inyati]

natmus said:

When I see how many report for duty, probably yes.

caz of R|M is offering help with scouting members of SW15, in particular tfstorm.

*Salute*

[ashimar]

The insidious warfare continues:

Date: 31.01.2006 10:19
From: Raul
Subject: RE: RE: R|M v S|W
Remember how E~L treated your members by spying and plotting. You struck back to protect your member interests. We are doing exactly the same thing. R|M want colonies and they want our members ocean 3 colonies. This I cannot allow to happen.

We have agreed peace 2 times before with R|M so it is possible.

Ashimar wrote:
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From where I'm standing it's all rather garbled up. You say this, Anton says that. To be honest, I can't quite make up who is telling the truth, perhaps you both are in a way. I hope you don't mind me saying that.

Ofcourse I relay your feedback to the rest of Morkin while thinking on solutions. The most simplictic yet effective solution would be a symbolic exchange of blows for one or two days and then calling a truce or something. They accuse some of you, you lot accuse them of something and thus you battle it out a bit on a limited stretch of ocean -ideally. The alternative would be an oilstain spreading out with "ghouls" from all sides jumping in to pick on the wings of all parties involved. I already got one of those who jumped out slightly too early <grin>.

I'll ask Anton what he would like to achieve with this, for I suspect hidden agendas on all sides.

and:

Date: 31.01.2006 10:52
To: Raul
Subject: RE: RE: RE: R|M v S|W
You have a point there.

But, what about these incidents where for instance Blaydwoman complains of her islands being attacked or nearly attacked by members of Sea Wolves wings claiming to have "leave" to do so and referring to some sort of masterlist ?

That would, from my point of view, be dubious behaviour also. Can you shed some light on that ?

Marc