[MEDIUM] Even more battles

[Natmus]

Bill and I have tried out even more test battles, this time involving garrisons.

First off, it would seem that garrisons in keeps are slaughtered even more easily than warrior armies at present. Even a fully garrisoned keep (2500 warriors) is blasted by a rider army. Likewise it seems that armies inside a garrisoned keep get no bonus, offensive or defensive. If a bonus is present, it is much too small to be visible in several test games.

Secondly, garrisoned citadels seem to behave funnily as well. As far as we can make out, when and army attack a garrisoned citadel, it suffer roughly 50 percent more casualties that usually (as in a normal attack on an army on neutral ground) in the very first round of attack, and then the battle settles down to normal as there were no citadel modifers for either side, and in a few turns the garison is gone.

So, when you get the time, Jean-Yves, can you give the stronghold modifiers a review to see if everything is working and included in the battl ealgorithm, please ?

[celebaglar]

Yup. I'll go along with that.

We weren't able to run quite the same scale of tests as earlier - our test resources are running low - but what we did run showed the same pattern: increased casualties to the attacker of a citadel on the first round of fighting, then the same pattern as if they were fighting anywhere else, with no visible modifiers or bonuses.

What this basically means is that except for the attack round itself, the walls of a citadel or keep have no effect. In fact the walls of a keep seem to have no effect whatsoever. Even in the attack round on citadels, the effect is strangely reversed. Instead of the walls offering protection to the defenders, they seem to inflict extra casualties on the attackers.

Sorry to be the bearers of bad news so close to the new release.

[sparrowhawk]

Just a thought - in this battle, was the garrison slain/wiped out after the first onslaught? If so, this is equivalent of having your walls breached and gates open, so the stronghold bonus vanishes.

[Natmus]

No, the test were full garrisons (2500 warriors), and no other defenders, against a full army of riders.

In one case we had a keep of 1250 warriors garrisoned with an army of 1250 warriors posted inside the keep, attacked by a rider army, and they were wiped out just as quickly.

[sparrowhawk]

OK, I'll go over that script again (yet again! )