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Post by Pose on Jan 23, 2007 15:35:40 GMT
I was wondering the same Natmus, but after reading through it all for the second time I think that they both were attacking what seems to be a defenceless isle( no reports with troops, other than possible qued men).
Our guy got if first, and built the main 1, then the MX chap used catas to take it.. then continued on to build up 10 main house lvls and build troops too falsyfing reports along the way.
only bit that now confuses me is why they are taking so long to either, give the green light to take it back, or kick the guy for lying to them.
I do think that loki should halt ALL builds until this is resolved though.
edit: typo
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Jan 23, 2007 15:52:00 GMT
Yes, but Loki says that for one thing he has lost a colony ship. That conforms with the one of his attack reports that claims a succesfull colonisation without use of cats. fishcult's attack also was without catapults, so it must have landed before Loki got the main house to level 2 (or we could have been without all of this). Then when Loki loses his own new colony he decides to take it back with cats. Is this correct, fishcult?
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Post by Pose on Jan 23, 2007 15:59:41 GMT
I Well i took that one (the one with 1 cata) to be crap, as its the one that is apparently a forgery..
The only one that I can see that was successfull is the one with two catas....or is it coincidence that the 'first successfull collo' has the same G/L/S as the other attack?
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Post by Natmus on Jan 23, 2007 16:11:57 GMT
Loki replied like this:
Clearly, he doesn't know how "know" is spelled.
Anyhoot, I replied with:
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Post by eproxy on Jan 23, 2007 16:23:00 GMT
From what I can gather; fishcult fairly colonised the isle without cats. Therefore even if Loki did colonise it before him the isle was taken semi-fairly. Compensation would have been paid to whoever didn't get the isle, ownership would have been decided with diplomacy.
Instead of diplomacy Loki resorted to just simply attacking the isle; with cats. He then went forth and forged attack reports to aid his case rather than simply telling the truth. He surely knows his mistake in plainly attacking the isle to get it back.
Added: Having had a second look at the attack reports I do not believe Loki ever even colonised the isle. The only Colonisation Successful report he has is the obvious forged one. If he has a failed one that seems to be legit why wouldn't he have the successful one which is surely more recent? I think he's lying even further... it wasn't a case of not having time to build the MH up... he never colonised it in the first place and realised accordingly that with no losses against the isle he had no claim.
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Post by camydoc on Jan 23, 2007 16:37:21 GMT
i might have missed this but has mx booted him yet are they keep him
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Post by mmupatton on Jan 23, 2007 16:43:32 GMT
Unless fishcult has edited in his attack report (the one where he colonises the island), it was unruled when he colonised it. See first post, first quote.
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Post by Natmus on Jan 23, 2007 18:25:41 GMT
Unless fishcult has edited in his attack report (the one where he colonises the island), it was unruled when he colonised it. See first post, first quote. Yes, right. That's the smoking gun! Loki sent this erratic message: Basically bullsh*t, and he doesn't answer my questions from the earlier message. I sent this to Loki and his admins (Neither Troian or Mer has bothered replying yet.):
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 23, 2007 18:30:53 GMT
What timeframe are we talking about between Fishcult first colonising the island and then Loki getting it? The crux of the matter for me is did Loki know that Fishult already colonised the isle before he launched? Hence, that's why he put those cats into the attack.
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 23, 2007 19:04:59 GMT
I once lost colony 8 minutes after i colonized it... There was nothing to do but to swallow the bad luck. (But Haymaker has allready kindly repaid me 15k Gold and 15k Lumber so far)
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Post by 2kcastle on Jan 23, 2007 19:25:11 GMT
for reference purposes only :
Islands Name Score -|01|023|21| (1:23:21) 393 -|01|031|03| (1:31:3) 408 -|01|031|05| (1:31:5) 506 -|01|032|07| (1:32:7) 636 -|01|032|08| (1:32:8) 766 -|01|032|12| (1:32:12) 526 -|01|033|01| (1:33:1) 113 -|01|043|21| (1:43:21) 330
If we share them out i'd like one of the ocean 1,32 isles ;-)
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Post by Warliter on Jan 23, 2007 19:31:22 GMT
anyone wanna tell me why you would send cats to an isle that you had already cleared(allegedly) and failed colo attempts on more than once.
I may be new to IK, but last time i checked 'herrscherlose Insel' doesn't build the MH or any other buildings for that matter
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Post by fishcult on Jan 23, 2007 19:38:52 GMT
Unless fishcult has edited in his attack report (the one where he colonises the island), it was unruled when he colonised it. See first post, first quote. Does anyone here know how to take a screenshot from my events screen? (a way to produce bulletproof evidence of me attacking unruled isle) Loki was colonising this isle aggressively(with catapults) all the time. He had couple of failed colonisation attempts and when I succeeded he propably got pissed because of it. Rest can be viewed from the reports. This is the travel time from my main to 1:43:21 Distance: 9 nautical miles, speed 2 knots Duration: 4 hours 28 minutes 43 seconds By using the old fashioned measuring techniques, distance is nearly the same from his nearest isle(I'm not sure if that is(was) capable to build coloships) I try to measure the time between my colonisation and his attack by using the timers in the events.. Ps. touché! warliter
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Post by Arminius on Jan 23, 2007 19:39:33 GMT
Exactly. Given that the Tyrant affair is almost finished now, we can turn to MX...
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Post by Natmus on Jan 23, 2007 19:46:30 GMT
The question is what to do now... I wouldn't mind a quick little war against such pricks, but maybe somebody else should do the talking. I'm much to tempted to simply send the fleets out and see how everything then lands. Or rather, I can't be bothered speaking to such idiots again. I think I have given diplomacy a chance, and for me it failed. I can look after it if you like, I am a FoM admin so they might listen to me as Fishcult is in FoM. However, I think most of the diplomacy has been done so we are close to some more direct action.
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