Post by fishcult on Jan 22, 2007 23:04:18 GMT
Hello to you all.
Loki took a newly colonised isle from me.
This is how this started(evolved):
EVENTs:
My colonisation report:
January 15, 2007
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Large Warships 80 0
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 400 1
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Loki's attack:
January 15, 2007
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
-----------------------------------
MAILs:
Some of my outbox has deleted itself already, so I'm copying some the mails from their answers (the inbox). I'll put these in chronological order.
My first mail to Loki(his answer above it):
Loki
January 15, 2007
RE: Your attack
it was my isle, i was the one who took out the main and sent repeated attempts at it, then i got it.
fishcult wrote:
----------
Explanation please. Fast.
My first mail to Mer, [MX] admin(her answer above it):
Mer
January 15, 2007
RE: 1:43:21
Ill speak to him, thanks for letting me know!
Can I see the attack report please?
fishcult wrote:
----------
Hi!
There might be a problem with this isle.
Your member Loki took it with catapults. He has not explained his actions yet.
I'm looking forward to handle this incident peacefully, but in anycase I'm waiting for compensations for my coloship + that isle.
B.R.
-Eelis-
To Mer
To Loki
Take note of the similarities in the first and third report.. (Unfortunately I noticed those lots later)
From Loki
To Loki
From Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Your attack
i think it is you who should talk with mer, i suffered the loss of a colo ship because of you, i could rightly ask for that back but i wont. if you attack me without me recieving a message from mer then it is an act of war.
To Mer
To Loki
From Loki
At this point I contacted Skulkrinbait.
From Mer
To Mer
To Loki
To Loki
From Loki
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: Your attack
So you don't have them. How convinient.. Start sending those resources.
From skulkrinbait
From Mer
From Mer
From Mer
To Mer
From Mer
To Mer
To Mer
To skulkrinbait
From Mer
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: reports URGENT
Look at the message you sent to me. I do not lie. Not my style of play. I'm not outsmarting you, it's Loki who is trying to do that to both of us.. I could take that as an insult but I wont.
Just read the message carefully and pay attention to fields which indicate attacker, defender, coloniksation results and lost coloships.
The identical amount of plundered rercources got my attention in the first place.
I'm looking forward for your brief responce.
B.R.
-Eelis-
From skulkrinbait
From Mer
To Mer
To Loki
To skulkrinbait; Natmus
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
Just that you know
I'm willing to negotiate with you, but not with that forger.
Loki
38 minutes ago
Forgery
Your attempt at forging your attack report has been revealed.
I'm utterly disapointed to 'cause of this.
This is final warning to you.
Next message from my behalf will be coming to you directly from Morkin/Corleth/FoM. It means that your actions will be taken as a formal act of war.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: Just that you know
Let me get back to you. I need to speak to Loki.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: Just that you know
Can you please go to the message where he provided you with attack reports... click reply, then add my name instead of Loki in the 'To' area. Do not change or add anything at all. Thanks
To Mer
To Mer
To Natmus;skulkrinbait
From Mer
To Mer
From Mer
To Mer
Mer
4 days ago
Loki
What is the status with the isle?
My patience is throughly at its end with Loki. I need that answer _very_ soon.
B.R.
-E-
To Mer
From Mer
To Troian
Troian
3 days ago
Loki
Hello.
Mer told me that you are handling case Loki.
What is going on with that. I'm not gonna wait for long anymore.
Reply to me as soon as possible.
B.R.
-Fishcult-
From Troian
To Troian
From Troian
To Natmus;skulkrinbait
To Loki
To skulkringbait
skulkrinbait
4 hours ago
Loki
I've sent him this a while ago. No responce. I've got spy on the way. I'll get back to you with the results.
"Loki
1 day ago
1:43:21
This is your chance to offer solution to the problem.
I'm waiting for your fast reply once you've read this.
If I don't receive it. We will act accordingly.
-F-"
To Troian
From Troian
From Troian(relating to talks with Natmus)
To Troian
To Mer
Loki is still in [MX]
Player
Name Loki
Alliance [MX]
Islands 8
Score 3593
Rank 32
Prestige 170
Personal data
Gender Male
Age 18
City Glasgow
Islands
Name Score
-|01|023|21| (1:23:21) 379
-|01|031|03| (1:31:3) 402
-|01|031|05| (1:31:5) 492
-|01|032|07| (1:32:7) 636
-|01|032|08| (1:32:8) 766
-|01|032|12| (1:32:12) 512
-|01|033|01| (1:33:1) 98
-|01|043|21| (1:43:21) 308 << Isle in question
Edit: more messages added
Loki took a newly colonised isle from me.
This is how this started(evolved):
EVENTs:
My colonisation report:
January 15, 2007
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Large Warships 80 0
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 400 1
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Loki's attack:
January 15, 2007
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
-----------------------------------
MAILs:
Some of my outbox has deleted itself already, so I'm copying some the mails from their answers (the inbox). I'll put these in chronological order.
My first mail to Loki(his answer above it):
Loki
January 15, 2007
RE: Your attack
it was my isle, i was the one who took out the main and sent repeated attempts at it, then i got it.
fishcult wrote:
----------
Explanation please. Fast.
My first mail to Mer, [MX] admin(her answer above it):
Mer
January 15, 2007
RE: 1:43:21
Ill speak to him, thanks for letting me know!
Can I see the attack report please?
fishcult wrote:
----------
Hi!
There might be a problem with this isle.
Your member Loki took it with catapults. He has not explained his actions yet.
I'm looking forward to handle this incident peacefully, but in anycase I'm waiting for compensations for my coloship + that isle.
B.R.
-Eelis-
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: 1:43:21
Thanks.
I hope this is solved with haste.
B.R.
-Eelis-
5 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
6 days ago
RE: RE: 1:43:21
Thanks.
I hope this is solved with haste.
B.R.
-Eelis-
5 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: Your attack
Don't blame me for your bad luck.
Show me the reports.
6 days ago
RE: RE: Your attack
Don't blame me for your bad luck.
Show me the reports.
Take note of the similarities in the first and third report.. (Unfortunately I noticed those lots later)
From Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: Your attack
20 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 431
Stone 855
Lumber 156
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: Your attack
20 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 431
Stone 855
Lumber 156
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Your attack
As I presumed.
You did not suffer any losses.
I will recolonise that isle. You owe me one coloship. Do not build more army. That will only make your sum of compensations higher.
Talk with Mer.
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Your attack
As I presumed.
You did not suffer any losses.
I will recolonise that isle. You owe me one coloship. Do not build more army. That will only make your sum of compensations higher.
Talk with Mer.
From Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Your attack
i think it is you who should talk with mer, i suffered the loss of a colo ship because of you, i could rightly ask for that back but i wont. if you attack me without me recieving a message from mer then it is an act of war.
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: 1:43:21
This is Loki's attack report (clearing)
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
As you can see he did not take any losses. I will colonise that isle as soon as I can.
I expect full compensation for my lost coloship. If that is produced within 24 hours It will be enough. If he continues to build up army on that isle or the compensation isn't delivered within 24 hours it will be more. These are my - very moderate - terms.
B.R.
Ps.
My message to Loki:
As I presumed.
You did not suffer any losses.
I will recolonise that isle. You owe me one coloship. Do not build more army. That will only make your sum of compensations higher.
Talk with Mer.
-Eelis-
6 days ago
RE: RE: 1:43:21
This is Loki's attack report (clearing)
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
As you can see he did not take any losses. I will colonise that isle as soon as I can.
I expect full compensation for my lost coloship. If that is produced within 24 hours It will be enough. If he continues to build up army on that isle or the compensation isn't delivered within 24 hours it will be more. These are my - very moderate - terms.
B.R.
Ps.
My message to Loki:
As I presumed.
You did not suffer any losses.
I will recolonise that isle. You owe me one coloship. Do not build more army. That will only make your sum of compensations higher.
Talk with Mer.
-Eelis-
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: Your attack
I've talked with Mer already. She has my messages.
You started a war already by catapulting my main house. I have no desire to retaliate furher than recolonising that isle. If things escalate you will not like it.
You have 24 hours to deliver the resources for new coloship.
B.R.
-fishcult-
6 days ago
RE: Your attack
I've talked with Mer already. She has my messages.
You started a war already by catapulting my main house. I have no desire to retaliate furher than recolonising that isle. If things escalate you will not like it.
You have 24 hours to deliver the resources for new coloship.
B.R.
-fishcult-
From Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: Your attack
no, me and mer have an unfinished conversation regarding the subject, any attack will result in a war before everything is sorted between me and my admin. she may have your messages but she has not finished talking with me. i took the isle that you took off me, yet you say i started it? you attacked an isle which i effectively cleared. do you always get other people to do your dirty work for you?
6 days ago
RE: RE: Your attack
no, me and mer have an unfinished conversation regarding the subject, any attack will result in a war before everything is sorted between me and my admin. she may have your messages but she has not finished talking with me. i took the isle that you took off me, yet you say i started it? you attacked an isle which i effectively cleared. do you always get other people to do your dirty work for you?
At this point I contacted Skulkrinbait.
skulkrinbait
6 days ago
Colony dispute
Just to let you know.
Isle 1:43:21 was catapulted from me by Loki[MX].
I'm negotiating with him and his admin Mer. I know Mer from .uk..
Do you have any mission for my ships? ~140 LWS + few cats?
B.R.
-Eelis-
6 days ago
Colony dispute
Just to let you know.
Isle 1:43:21 was catapulted from me by Loki[MX].
I'm negotiating with him and his admin Mer. I know Mer from .uk..
Do you have any mission for my ships? ~140 LWS + few cats?
B.R.
-Eelis-
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: 1:43:21
Unfortunately, I have seen all of his attack reports and I understand that this was an island that he cleared completely (If you would like attack reports, please ask), tried SEVERAL times to colonise (I have attack reports) and then finally colonised overnight - but before he had the chance to do anything with it... you took it from him.
The report you have provided is one of the many that I have from Loki - one of his more recent ones. I have some from days ago - so he had been trying for this isle for a fair amount of time.
So... Im going to have to ask that you do not take the isle from him.
If you have a problem with the rightful ownership of this island... than please message me back with reasoning! Im am willing to listen to any explanation
Thanks a bunch,
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: 1:43:21
Unfortunately, I have seen all of his attack reports and I understand that this was an island that he cleared completely (If you would like attack reports, please ask), tried SEVERAL times to colonise (I have attack reports) and then finally colonised overnight - but before he had the chance to do anything with it... you took it from him.
The report you have provided is one of the many that I have from Loki - one of his more recent ones. I have some from days ago - so he had been trying for this isle for a fair amount of time.
So... Im going to have to ask that you do not take the isle from him.
If you have a problem with the rightful ownership of this island... than please message me back with reasoning! Im am willing to listen to any explanation
Thanks a bunch,
Mer
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: 1:43:21
Show me attack reports where he actually does some if any clearing.
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: 1:43:21
Show me attack reports where he actually does some if any clearing.
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: Your attack
Did you sent all your attack reports to me?
You did not clear it. Catapulting is an act of war, therefore you started it.
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: Your attack
Did you sent all your attack reports to me?
You did not clear it. Catapulting is an act of war, therefore you started it.
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
Your attack
Do you have those reports or not?
6 days ago
Your attack
Do you have those reports or not?
From Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: Your attack
Mer
42 minutes ago
RE: 1:43:21
Please do not talk to him anymore. I will sort this...
6 days ago
RE: Your attack
Mer
42 minutes ago
RE: 1:43:21
Please do not talk to him anymore. I will sort this...
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
RE: RE: Your attack
So you don't have them. How convinient.. Start sending those resources.
From skulkrinbait
skulkrinbait
6 days ago
RE: Colony dispute
I'll ask on the forums, thanks for telling me.
6 days ago
RE: Colony dispute
I'll ask on the forums, thanks for telling me.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: reports
Loki wrote:
----------
latest one to retake -
4 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
some others -
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 431
Stone 855
Lumber 156
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
6 days ago
RE: reports
Loki wrote:
----------
latest one to retake -
4 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
some others -
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 431
Stone 855
Lumber 156
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: more reports
Loki wrote:
----------
2 days ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 11 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 3043
Stone 917
Lumber 1100
Destruction
Main House Level 8 (Destruction: 9)
Watch-Tower Level 1 (Destruction: 2)
2 days ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 11 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 856
Stone 258
Lumber 309
Destruction
Main House Level 17 (Destruction: 3)
6 days ago
RE: more reports
Loki wrote:
----------
2 days ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 11 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 3043
Stone 917
Lumber 1100
Destruction
Main House Level 8 (Destruction: 9)
Watch-Tower Level 1 (Destruction: 2)
2 days ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 11 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 856
Stone 258
Lumber 309
Destruction
Main House Level 17 (Destruction: 3)
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: 1:43:21
There was no forging. He provided them the second that I asked for them.
Apologies for going to bed and not reading your message last night.
Just like you, I do not lie either. The information I provide you is not forged or altered in any way.
These are the circumstances - ive provided the reports and the isle belongs to him. I apologise that things dont always work out to the benefit of everyone.
The isle stays with Loki - if any action is taken against him, it will be looked at as an aggressive attack.
Please understand that if you rightfully owned the isle that I would fight for your benefit...
Thanks,
Mer
6 days ago
RE: 1:43:21
There was no forging. He provided them the second that I asked for them.
Apologies for going to bed and not reading your message last night.
Just like you, I do not lie either. The information I provide you is not forged or altered in any way.
These are the circumstances - ive provided the reports and the isle belongs to him. I apologise that things dont always work out to the benefit of everyone.
The isle stays with Loki - if any action is taken against him, it will be looked at as an aggressive attack.
Please understand that if you rightfully owned the isle that I would fight for your benefit...
Thanks,
Mer
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: 1:43:21
This will not end here.
I did not do anything wrong. I did not take his isle with catapults. He did take my isle with catapults (aggressive, intentional attack). That is a act of war, make no mistake about that. If he would have took the isle when my main huose was still at level one there would have been no problems at all. I too had few runs for that same isle. Bad luck has nothing to do with the ownership of this isle. He owes me that isle(compensation).
I'm not implying that you would lie or make forgeries. Loki is a player I do not know. He has not produced one single report where he has cleared the isle. I cleared some troops from that isle ages ago. I do not have the report left from that attack anymore.
6 days ago
RE: RE: 1:43:21
This will not end here.
I did not do anything wrong. I did not take his isle with catapults. He did take my isle with catapults (aggressive, intentional attack). That is a act of war, make no mistake about that. If he would have took the isle when my main huose was still at level one there would have been no problems at all. I too had few runs for that same isle. Bad luck has nothing to do with the ownership of this isle. He owes me that isle(compensation).
I'm not implying that you would lie or make forgeries. Loki is a player I do not know. He has not produced one single report where he has cleared the isle. I cleared some troops from that isle ages ago. I do not have the report left from that attack anymore.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: 1:43:21
You havent provided me with reports that prove anything otherwise..
Appears to me that he cleared the isle.
As you havent jumped the gun and provided me concrete evidence that it is otherwise, I cant just let you take an isle from one of my members.
If you want compensation for a CS - thats fair I guess. Although, you are not taking the isle back and you cant always expect compensation for dumb mistakes.
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: 1:43:21
You havent provided me with reports that prove anything otherwise..
Appears to me that he cleared the isle.
As you havent jumped the gun and provided me concrete evidence that it is otherwise, I cant just let you take an isle from one of my members.
If you want compensation for a CS - thats fair I guess. Although, you are not taking the isle back and you cant always expect compensation for dumb mistakes.
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: reports URGENT
I just looked through his messages. He is lying.
compare this to the one below:
20 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful. <--------------
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0 <--------------
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
Mer wrote:
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Loki wrote:
----------
latest one to retake -
4 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
some others -
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
6 days ago
RE: reports URGENT
I just looked through his messages. He is lying.
compare this to the one below:
20 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful. <--------------
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0 <--------------
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
Mer wrote:
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Loki wrote:
----------
latest one to retake -
4 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 56 1
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 280 3
Catapults 2 0
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Stone Throwers 6 6
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 1)
some others -
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: reports
This is my attack report
23 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Large Warships 80 0
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 400 1
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
6 days ago
RE: RE: reports
This is my attack report
23 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of fishcult
Total Losses
Large Warships 80 0
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 400 1
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
To skulkrinbait
skulkrinbait
6 days ago
Colony dispute 2
This might turn out ugly.
Loki is forging his attack reports.
I'll keep you posted.
6 days ago
Colony dispute 2
This might turn out ugly.
Loki is forging his attack reports.
I'll keep you posted.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: reports URGENT
You clearly changed the report.. as it is also attached to the message you sent me saying 'Colonization failed' with the identical resources claimed.
Please dont try to outsmart me... I like you fishcult. Dont pretend like I'm stupid, please...
6 days ago
RE: RE: reports URGENT
You clearly changed the report.. as it is also attached to the message you sent me saying 'Colonization failed' with the identical resources claimed.
Please dont try to outsmart me... I like you fishcult. Dont pretend like I'm stupid, please...
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: reports URGENT
Look at the message you sent to me. I do not lie. Not my style of play. I'm not outsmarting you, it's Loki who is trying to do that to both of us.. I could take that as an insult but I wont.
Just read the message carefully and pay attention to fields which indicate attacker, defender, coloniksation results and lost coloships.
The identical amount of plundered rercources got my attention in the first place.
I'm looking forward for your brief responce.
B.R.
-Eelis-
From skulkrinbait
skulkrinbait
6 days ago
RE: Colony dispute 2
Keep me informed. I've copied Natmus in so he is also aware.
We need to try to keep this low-key at least until Tyrant is defeated, then we can turn our attention to Loki.
Are his admins aware?
6 days ago
RE: Colony dispute 2
Keep me informed. I've copied Natmus in so he is also aware.
We need to try to keep this low-key at least until Tyrant is defeated, then we can turn our attention to Loki.
Are his admins aware?
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: reports URGENT
No, the only Colonisation SUCCESSFUL that I have in my records was NOT the report you claimed had been successful. There was altering of reports on your part and I dont appreciate it. It was as if you called me stupid.
Like I previously said... I like you, but please dont play me for stupid.
Thanks,
Mer
6 days ago
RE: reports URGENT
No, the only Colonisation SUCCESSFUL that I have in my records was NOT the report you claimed had been successful. There was altering of reports on your part and I dont appreciate it. It was as if you called me stupid.
Like I previously said... I like you, but please dont play me for stupid.
Thanks,
Mer
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: reports URGENT
I was on my gsm previously thats why the delay.
My patience is starting to run out on this matter. I do NOT alter reports. I do not appreciate that you call me liar either.
The report that I sent to you was sent to me by Loki. Where is the report where he claims that he did colonise that isle before me?
The other report on my previous message is my colonisation report. I attacked unruled isle.
He has forged the other report as you can see.
6 days ago
RE: RE: reports URGENT
I was on my gsm previously thats why the delay.
My patience is starting to run out on this matter. I do NOT alter reports. I do not appreciate that you call me liar either.
The report that I sent to you was sent to me by Loki. Where is the report where he claims that he did colonise that isle before me?
The other report on my previous message is my colonisation report. I attacked unruled isle.
He has forged the other report as you can see.
To Loki
Loki
6 days ago
Forgery
Your attempt at forging your attack report has been revealed.
I'm utterly disapointed to 'cause of this.
This is final warning to you.
Next message from my behalf will be coming to you directly from Morkin/Corleth/FoM. It means that your actions will be taken as a formal act of war.
6 days ago
Forgery
Your attempt at forging your attack report has been revealed.
I'm utterly disapointed to 'cause of this.
This is final warning to you.
Next message from my behalf will be coming to you directly from Morkin/Corleth/FoM. It means that your actions will be taken as a formal act of war.
To skulkrinbait; Natmus
Natmus
6 days ago
RE: RE: Colony dispute 2
to skulkrinbait;Natmus
Mer, his admin, is aware of this but fails to see his forgery. I do not know what messages Loki has sent to her. I'm waiting her responce to one message.
I've sent this to Loki (with those f*cking typos!):
"Loki
3 minutes ago
Forgery
Your attempt at forging your attack report has been revealed.
I'm utterly disapointed to 'cause of this.
This is final warning to you.
Next message from my behalf will be coming to you directly from Morkin/Corleth/FoM. It means that your actions will be taken as a formal act of war."
6 days ago
RE: RE: Colony dispute 2
to skulkrinbait;Natmus
Mer, his admin, is aware of this but fails to see his forgery. I do not know what messages Loki has sent to her. I'm waiting her responce to one message.
I've sent this to Loki (with those f*cking typos!):
"Loki
3 minutes ago
Forgery
Your attempt at forging your attack report has been revealed.
I'm utterly disapointed to 'cause of this.
This is final warning to you.
Next message from my behalf will be coming to you directly from Morkin/Corleth/FoM. It means that your actions will be taken as a formal act of war."
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
Just that you know
I'm willing to negotiate with you, but not with that forger.
Loki
38 minutes ago
Forgery
Your attempt at forging your attack report has been revealed.
I'm utterly disapointed to 'cause of this.
This is final warning to you.
Next message from my behalf will be coming to you directly from Morkin/Corleth/FoM. It means that your actions will be taken as a formal act of war.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: Just that you know
Let me get back to you. I need to speak to Loki.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: Just that you know
Can you please go to the message where he provided you with attack reports... click reply, then add my name instead of Loki in the 'To' area. Do not change or add anything at all. Thanks
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Your attack
Loki wrote:
----------
20 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 431
Stone 855
Lumber 156
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Your attack
Loki wrote:
----------
20 hours ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization successful.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 431
Stone 855
Lumber 156
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Colonization failed.
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 1
Colonization Ships 1 0
Catapults 1 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 1595
Stone 481
Lumber 577
1 day ago
Attack on -|01|043|21| (1:43:21)
Units of Loki
Total Losses
Large Warships 20 0
Small Merchant Ships 26 0
Catapults 3 0
Units of herrscherlose Insel
Total Losses
Plundered resources
Gold 2699
Stone 0
Lumber 977
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 7)
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
Loki
You will propably notice that there is something quite similar between the first and the third report.
6 days ago
Loki
You will propably notice that there is something quite similar between the first and the third report.
To Natmus;skulkrinbait
Natmus
6 days ago
RE: RE: Loki
Things start to look better now. I think Mer sees it now. This should now be only a matter of time.
Mer wrote:
----------
Yes - let me speak to him. I will get back to you. The tables seem to be turning.
fishcult wrote:
----------
You will propably notice that there is something quite similar between the first and the third report.
6 days ago
RE: RE: Loki
Things start to look better now. I think Mer sees it now. This should now be only a matter of time.
Mer wrote:
----------
Yes - let me speak to him. I will get back to you. The tables seem to be turning.
fishcult wrote:
----------
You will propably notice that there is something quite similar between the first and the third report.
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: Loki
Yes - let me speak to him. I will get back to you. The tables seem to be turning.
6 days ago
RE: Loki
Yes - let me speak to him. I will get back to you. The tables seem to be turning.
To Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: Loki
Any progress regarding Loki?
6 days ago
RE: RE: Loki
Any progress regarding Loki?
From Mer
Mer
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: Loki
Not yet. Im looking further into the issue...
I will get back to you, I promise.
6 days ago
RE: RE: RE: Loki
Not yet. Im looking further into the issue...
I will get back to you, I promise.
To Mer
Mer
4 days ago
Loki
What is the status with the isle?
My patience is throughly at its end with Loki. I need that answer _very_ soon.
B.R.
-E-
To Mer
Mer
4 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Loki
I don't mean to be an Stronzo!, but what is going on?
B.R.
-Eelis-
4 days ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Loki
I don't mean to be an Stronzo!, but what is going on?
B.R.
-Eelis-
From Mer
Mer
4 days ago
RE: Loki
Troian is taking over this issue... He will message you shortly. Sorry for the hassle.
4 days ago
RE: Loki
Troian is taking over this issue... He will message you shortly. Sorry for the hassle.
To Troian
Troian
3 days ago
Loki
Hello.
Mer told me that you are handling case Loki.
What is going on with that. I'm not gonna wait for long anymore.
Reply to me as soon as possible.
B.R.
-Fishcult-
From Troian
Troian
3 days ago
RE: Loki
Hi.
For a start, don't run your demands at me. If I want to take a month to handle the case, I'll take a month, and if you want to try to shorten that with forceful messages, you've got another thing coming.. and it may just be several kinds of 'f*ck you' from MX.
Now if you'd like to message me asking as to what I think will happen, and how I'm going to handle it, feel free, and you may be so lucky as to get a decent response.
The case is currently on your side, but if you want to turn pushy, I can play that game. Mer couldn't be bothered with the chasing back and forth, making sure the whole thing went fairly.. I'm a tad more blunt, so I only deal with things that go too far.
Loki is going to be kicked from MX - thus, you can do what you want with him.
Troian.
3 days ago
RE: Loki
Hi.
For a start, don't run your demands at me. If I want to take a month to handle the case, I'll take a month, and if you want to try to shorten that with forceful messages, you've got another thing coming.. and it may just be several kinds of 'f*ck you' from MX.
Now if you'd like to message me asking as to what I think will happen, and how I'm going to handle it, feel free, and you may be so lucky as to get a decent response.
The case is currently on your side, but if you want to turn pushy, I can play that game. Mer couldn't be bothered with the chasing back and forth, making sure the whole thing went fairly.. I'm a tad more blunt, so I only deal with things that go too far.
Loki is going to be kicked from MX - thus, you can do what you want with him.
Troian.
To Troian
Troian
3 days ago
RE: RE: Loki
Hi.
This back and forth thing has been going for three days now. Dozens of messages. I was accused of lying several times. Thats why my messages might sound bit annoyed...
I'm f*cking pissed because of Loki's actions and that does not mean I'm pissed at you.
So...
You are going to kick Loki 'cause of the lying & forging? (Or other reasons which don't relate to me)... Why I ask, is the fact that he still is in [MX].
Do you want to communicate with Loki or should I do it directly with him? Obviously if you kick him , I'll deal it directly with him.
3 days ago
RE: RE: Loki
Hi.
This back and forth thing has been going for three days now. Dozens of messages. I was accused of lying several times. Thats why my messages might sound bit annoyed...
I'm f*cking pissed because of Loki's actions and that does not mean I'm pissed at you.
So...
You are going to kick Loki 'cause of the lying & forging? (Or other reasons which don't relate to me)... Why I ask, is the fact that he still is in [MX].
Do you want to communicate with Loki or should I do it directly with him? Obviously if you kick him , I'll deal it directly with him.
From Troian
Troian
3 days ago
RE: Loki
He currently remains in MX because Mer deals with our member organisation - he'll be removed today.
Dozens of messages exchanged etc.. etc.. mean nothing to me. You expect a player's admin to say "Hi fishcult!! Let me boot him RIGHT away!" ? Things need to be investigated, especially when there's no way to prove either way.
Once he's kicked, you can do what you like with him.
3 days ago
RE: Loki
He currently remains in MX because Mer deals with our member organisation - he'll be removed today.
Dozens of messages exchanged etc.. etc.. mean nothing to me. You expect a player's admin to say "Hi fishcult!! Let me boot him RIGHT away!" ? Things need to be investigated, especially when there's no way to prove either way.
Once he's kicked, you can do what you like with him.
To Natmus;skulkrinbait
skulkrinbait
2 days ago
Loki
To Natmus;skulkrinbait
Troian wrote this:
"He currently remains in MX because Mer deals with our member organisation - he'll be removed today.
Once he's kicked, you can do what you like with him."
Any suggestions of the way to sort this? I see only two possibilities.
1) Compensation to me(coloship + what ever the damage is when I recolonise that isle) plus the isle. I could go for lost resources for four days, but that could be bit too much....
2) Open war against Loki. He has 8 isles...
Those are my 2 cents on the issue. Any thoughts?
B.R.
-Eelis-
2 days ago
Loki
To Natmus;skulkrinbait
Troian wrote this:
"He currently remains in MX because Mer deals with our member organisation - he'll be removed today.
Once he's kicked, you can do what you like with him."
Any suggestions of the way to sort this? I see only two possibilities.
1) Compensation to me(coloship + what ever the damage is when I recolonise that isle) plus the isle. I could go for lost resources for four days, but that could be bit too much....
2) Open war against Loki. He has 8 isles...
Those are my 2 cents on the issue. Any thoughts?
B.R.
-Eelis-
To Loki
Loki
1 day ago
1:43:21
This is your chance to offer solution to the problem.
I'm waiting for your fast reply once you've read this.
If I don't receive it. We will take act accordingly.
-F-
1 day ago
1:43:21
This is your chance to offer solution to the problem.
I'm waiting for your fast reply once you've read this.
If I don't receive it. We will take act accordingly.
-F-
To skulkringbait
skulkrinbait
4 hours ago
Loki
I've sent him this a while ago. No responce. I've got spy on the way. I'll get back to you with the results.
"Loki
1 day ago
1:43:21
This is your chance to offer solution to the problem.
I'm waiting for your fast reply once you've read this.
If I don't receive it. We will act accordingly.
-F-"
To Troian
Troian
9 hours ago
RE: RE: Loki
Hello.
I noticed Loki is still in MX. I tought this was clear already?
What is happening with the 1:43:21? He is building it up. Hopefuly not defences since it's going to make this incident more and more expensive...
regards,
-F
9 hours ago
RE: RE: Loki
Hello.
I noticed Loki is still in MX. I tought this was clear already?
What is happening with the 1:43:21? He is building it up. Hopefuly not defences since it's going to make this incident more and more expensive...
regards,
-F
From Troian
Troian
8 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: Loki
Discussing with him the edited report.
8 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: Loki
Discussing with him the edited report.
From Troian(relating to talks with Natmus)
Troian
47 minutes ago
RE: RE: Conflict with fishcult
Okay, let me clear this up.
Natmus - your opinion and involvement is obsolete and unnecessary. Do not attempt to get involved in an issue nothing to do with you - certainly don't barrel into an MX issue with attacks of any size or you WILL be executed, just like Life_is_Green was.
I've told Loki and echamber that I will be discussing the situation myself with Loki to come to a conclusion, although the isle is staying inside MX.
Highly tempted to simply call closure to the situation following the abrupt attempt at forceful closure by you, Natmus.
I'll let you know our conclusion whenever I happen to reach it. Until then, we will list all FoM isles, and possibly Morkin isles on our alliance / coalition boards. So long as patience and tolerance is shown, I'll ensure we deliver what is deserved to fishcult.
Troian
47 minutes ago
RE: RE: Conflict with fishcult
Okay, let me clear this up.
Natmus - your opinion and involvement is obsolete and unnecessary. Do not attempt to get involved in an issue nothing to do with you - certainly don't barrel into an MX issue with attacks of any size or you WILL be executed, just like Life_is_Green was.
I've told Loki and echamber that I will be discussing the situation myself with Loki to come to a conclusion, although the isle is staying inside MX.
Highly tempted to simply call closure to the situation following the abrupt attempt at forceful closure by you, Natmus.
I'll let you know our conclusion whenever I happen to reach it. Until then, we will list all FoM isles, and possibly Morkin isles on our alliance / coalition boards. So long as patience and tolerance is shown, I'll ensure we deliver what is deserved to fishcult.
Troian
To Troian
Troian
17 minutes ago
RE: Conflict with fishcult
"the isle is staying inside MX. " What do you mean by this statement?
You've admitted that he lied. You must know that he forged that other report if you look at those messages. What else is there to talk about?
He is buildin up the defences constantly. The toll is rising.
-Fishcult-
17 minutes ago
RE: Conflict with fishcult
"the isle is staying inside MX. " What do you mean by this statement?
You've admitted that he lied. You must know that he forged that other report if you look at those messages. What else is there to talk about?
He is buildin up the defences constantly. The toll is rising.
-Fishcult-
To Mer
Mer
6 minutes ago
Clearing reports
Hello.
I would like to see clearing reports relating 1:43:21.
Loki was unable to produce them the last time I asked him/you.
Only thing he has done is knocked the main house down to lvl 1 without losses.
You know he did not lose two coloships:
"Troian
8 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: Loki
Discussing with him the edited report."
What else is there?
B.R.
-Fishcult-
6 minutes ago
Clearing reports
Hello.
I would like to see clearing reports relating 1:43:21.
Loki was unable to produce them the last time I asked him/you.
Only thing he has done is knocked the main house down to lvl 1 without losses.
You know he did not lose two coloships:
"Troian
8 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: Loki
Discussing with him the edited report."
What else is there?
B.R.
-Fishcult-
Loki is still in [MX]
Player
Name Loki
Alliance [MX]
Islands 8
Score 3593
Rank 32
Prestige 170
Personal data
Gender Male
Age 18
City Glasgow
Islands
Name Score
-|01|023|21| (1:23:21) 379
-|01|031|03| (1:31:3) 402
-|01|031|05| (1:31:5) 492
-|01|032|07| (1:32:7) 636
-|01|032|08| (1:32:8) 766
-|01|032|12| (1:32:12) 512
-|01|033|01| (1:33:1) 98
-|01|043|21| (1:43:21) 308 << Isle in question
Edit: more messages added