Digg Admins + Morkin = Not good right now.

[Aesir]

From phil:

ok they have gone over the edge in my book

Ares
58 minutes ago
Let's try this again!
cc:fhloop;dominicuh;lemonion;phil299;dudehammer

Ok, maybe *this time* the Mighty Orc Horde will die a death worthy of remembering!

Sheesh, how many blazes of glory do we have to attempt to go out in? Wink I'm pretty sure this one will be the last though. Maybe. Probably. Ah, who knows!

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, I suggest you wake up, 'uman. :-P

'Tis a good day to die!

Orc Orc!!

Following this he quotes a bunch of Ashimar's in game messages.

sorry but these mork's are real toss pots sometimes.

I sent morkin an ultimatum.....either this stops now or.... I said 'I' would call for digg involvement tomorrow (8 hours time) and I suggested you guys would back me up....but of course you don't have to.......

If that threat works great...if not we can talk our way out of it....

But remember these guys never cleared any of the disputed prebiult....and they are picking on an alliance that has just had RK suicide into them taking out there oldest and most trusted players...talk about turning on your mate when they are down...

I WANT BLOOD THIS DAY ...or at least a humiliating climb down.....grrrrrrrrrrrr

Followed by:

My fleets have your back phil. I've had enough of these Morkin bastards.

Followed by:

I'm ready, Phil, of course I'll back you up. It saddens me that they give ORC so little credit and their arrogance angers the hell out of me. I'll fight with you!!!

Followed by:

I find these latest actions nothing short of bullying - ironic, no? At the moment I find Orc to be far better allies, friends, and fellow players than these morkin folks involved in this dispute. Which ever way this rolls, I'm behind you 100%, phil (for whatever that's worth Undecided)

[Sol]

Right...seeing as this is probably going to escalate into something greater, can I give someone access to my account while I'm away (aka sleeping/in school)?

Don't wanna be attacked while I'm not around.

[AeroS]

We are pacted with DIGG. The first threat they send our way will be posted all over the IK forum. Whats DIGG's deal anyways? They have destroyed several smaller alliances in the name of keeping their members content. Why are they shoving their noses in our disputes when we let them bully many other alliances into quitting or suiciding?

EDIT: can some one post a few of the alliances that DIGG has wiped out? I know CANADA was annihilated. I remember Lane was attacking a small alliance with a group of his friends a couple months back. His reasoning for the attacks were that they were under defended and some one was going to benefit.....why not him.

[Shendemiar]

At Digg forum, Morkin ambassadors area:

Arminius wrote earlier:

As you might have heard, the orcs are playing silly buggers with us. Since they ignore our messages, diplomacy seems to have reached a final point, and I guess they refer to us when they talk of 'enemies of orc'. If these w*nkers want war, they can have it. We'd much rather not fight them, just because we've got better things to do than play their silly games.

However, should they attack us, what is Digg's stance on this? Officially we are pacted, whereas the orcs have no pacts at all, but you stated you were pacted with them too.

Any clarification welcome.

To which i replied just now:

There will be no need to check pacts because there will be no war.

The concensus in Morkin is that Ashimars attack was premature and out of line, and the damage should be repaid. (Even considering orcs lied and tried to get compensation while colo+cats were inbound)

This issue would have been settled ages ago if Orcs could talk.

[Clausewitz]

Shen, your response is nothing less than outstanding.

That encapsulates the matter better than any of the fifty-thousand posts we've had on the whole debacle.

[Dalfiatach]

I still think we should let things die down with Orc, then next week raze every single isle of every Digger that badmouthed us, all at exactly the same time. Morons.

[Clausewitz]

Sticks and stones, my friend.

A man who is truly supreme in his confidence and complete in righteousness need not worry what mere words lesser men speak against him.

Call me incompetent, I will laugh. Call me arrogant, I will smile. Tell me you will kill me, I will await your first move. But the day I take action based on your mere words is the day that you have manipulated, controlled, baited, and therefore defeated me.

[SkulkrinBait]

True.

We don't attack first, it's not our way of doing things.

[Arminius]

Right. I will shut up from now on, in case Robert gets one of his mood swings again. At least I will then not contradict him.

[Natmus]

It's almost too bad. I recieved a number of messages from Otak (henceforth: Odie) that managed to bug me no end. He really is a tosser and has an annoying way of writing.

I would have taken great pleasure in levelling his isles, especially as I read up on Aja's correspondance with him back when Angel had a problem between stealthycow and Lokim, which led to Odie and GFY to attempt start a war.

[Warliter]

Good Job on the inside info of what DIGG admins think of Morkin.

There is one statement that for me sums up the DIGG/Morkin relationship

I sent Morkin an ultimatum.....either this stops now or.... I said 'I' would call for DIGG involvement tomorrow (8 hours time) and I suggested you guys would back me up....but of course you don't have to.......

WTF???

This to me says that they only want us on their side to suit their own agenda (Which I believe to be a deterrent to Pantheon

Last time I checked you have PACTS with alliances that were ‘friends’; 'friends' do not give each other ultimatums.

Given that we don't interfere in DIGG disputes, they have no right to interfere with ours especially when they side with a non-pacted alliance over us. The sooner this PACT is dropped the better.

I have read the predictions that this will become a dead server due to super alliances (DIGG, Pantheon) and it is becoming ever more apparent that this is the case.

I think we should approach the alliances that fit our U-Turn policy get the pacts/treaties verbally in place ) implement them after a short period of notice, announce our new direction and drop DIGG from our list of friends as they have shown they have no wish to be our friends they clearly want to be inselpolice.

I would rather fight a suicide war and go out of this game than play insel-bloody-sim

This whole situation has ended with us doing as DIGG tell us. I state again that I feel that our PACT with DIGG is no longer a tenable option due to the Ultimatum given by Phil

[mmupatton]

While not - at the moment I am trying to get intel on what the f*** has happened and therefore try to form an opinion with a vertebra - quite being in line with attacking DIGG, maybe today was the day to drop the DIGG pact.

[inyati]

GET A MOVE ON, or make me, Dalfiatach and Warliter ADMIN!! This will be over within minutes!!!

ggeeeeezzzz

[inyati]

No hard fealings towards DIGG..they have simply chosen the ORCs over us. Full stop...'nuff said

[eproxy]

I think we can continue Digg/Morkins future in this thread instead of spreading it over three. Henceforth thread locked (sorry). If you disagree with this just unlock the thread.