Pantheon Agenda...

[Clausewitz]

I heard a similar thing from a rank-and-file DIGG member. He also said he heard the Morkin/Pantheon treaty was broken.

Sounds like there's some rumors spinning within DIGG They're notorious for conspiracy-theories, rumor-mongering, and outright fairy tales.

[Arminius]

He also said he'd heard that I was thinking of selling up

If this goes on for much longer in this way I might even consider it.

[Arminius]

Apologies: I confused Scotty of DD with Scoots of DIGG. Scotty is the friendly guy, and he even offered help should Pantheon want to attack us.

Should I ask DasNeal to state in writing that these are just rumours?

[SkulkrinBait]

dalfiatach said:

Marc's current little adventure with the Orcs presents an unexpected opportunity. Orc are CCing the DIGG leadership on all in-game mails relating to the dispute.

Not very Orcish is it? Copying the head of the UN into all the diplomatic bags?

[Aesir]

According to moles working for Digg inside Pantheon, Pantheon admins are in the process of voting whether to drop the pact with Digg. No pertinent information has been posted yet, but a filler thread has been started about it.

Will update as I find out more.

[Arminius]

DasNeal denied any such rumours (about us fighting them) and we've now got a peace treaty in place. Apologies for not consulting anyone--it was a spontaneous decision, a bit like with H|F...

[SkulkrinBait]

Interesting: Bottom up for all, I'm lazy!

Yeah we didn't know that till this morning. The way we are being treated since the merge is just not tolerable. Combine that with the rumor mongering that they are spreading about us.

~ Das

skulkrinbait wrote:
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Why the timing? We just cancelled our pact with them as well.

Okeanos wrote:
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MORKIN leaders,
Due to recent changes in DIGG we are re-evaluating our pact. I will not belabor the why's as we have made every effort to be as transparent as possible. Suffice it to say that a pact should be a partnership based upon respect and trust.

No one is kidding themselves that DIGG is interested in competition or a healthy server any longer. Combined with the paranoia and rumor mongering that is coming from their alliance and we feel we no longer can afford to be associated with them.

~ Das

RE: RE: DIGG
Well just be aware that we are not going to allow ourselves to be treated like this. We are getting threats now from meatpopsicle and cries of ignorance from scoots and lemonion.

Why do people expect to act like this without consequences? We have not disputed any island claim, sent no spies and not disparaged them publicly or privately. Yes we believe something needs to change and are prepared to disagree over that.

If they cannot even allow us to have different opinions how long will it be till we are not allowed to colo in their oceans? Is it really that far of a step from one to another?

~ Das

What I don't understand is that when you publicly taunt and disrespect a pact mate how do they believe we will respond?

All because we don't agree with them over colo rules and the future of the server? Yikes, I have to keep reminding myself I am playing this game with teenage boys.

It would be a hoot to see them lose their first place golden calf position. I think they fear that more than anything.

~ Das

skulkrinbait wrote:
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Yes, they are hypocrites of the worst kind, they destroyed E-S rather than negotiate and then they step in when we threaten Orc saying they want to prevent Orc being destroyed.

W actualyl considered joining Pantheon (if you'd have let us) just to see how scared DIGG became when Pantheon overtook them in the rankings.

That is unlikely to ever happen but it's more likely now than it was yesterday!

Do you mean you are going to be pacting with more alliances ? Also what did you mean by 'That said, if war comes, we fight, no question.' Do you mean against Digg or for your pact mates ?

~S

skulkrinbait wrote:
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We're looking to forge a "third way", you've got DIGG vs Pantheon as the old cold war, we want to hold the middle ground.

We've several alliances coming round to our way of thinking, but we're not looking for wars. That said, if war comes, we fight, no question.

Okeanos wrote:
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We would ask MORKIN to keep the scavengers out of any war. If we do fight it is much easier to worry about the threat in front of you not the twelve potential one's behind your back.

~ Das

Sounds like Pantheon want us to keep the scavengers off their backs, I said we probable would depending on who the scavengers were.

[inyati]

HA! They heard of our pact cancelation this morning....

[SkulkrinBait]

Pantheon will try to get us to fight DIGG with them, if we are settled on our third way then we will be content to let them know we intend sitting it out.

[AeroS]

I am happy with this move to a peace treaty with DIGG. I would not like to go to war against them. Let them find a way to make this a competitive server again if that is still possible.

[SkulkrinBait]

Okeanose messaged me about DIGG:

Okeanos
1½ hours ago
DIGG
MORKIN Leaders,
We are having some frank conversations with Lemonion. Seems DIGG has put on their friend hat for the minute. I guess the proof is really in the pudding though.

Do ya'll have any suggestions for what Pantheon should do next? Honestly if they are willing to listen we would REALLY like to work to make things better but don't want this to be a 'we win, they lose' sorta' situation.

Honestly I never thought they would even listen so maybe they will surprise me. If I knew all this was going to go down this week I wouldn't have planned two deadlines at work, lol.

~ Das

As advisor to Pantheon, I replied thus (bottom up):

Okeanos
1 hour ago
RE: RE: DIGG
Skulkrinbait,
I agree down the line with your analysis. Let me take your bet and raise you this, sign a pact with Pantheon and we will attack them.

We don't care in the least if it is on the treaties page. We need you to keep anyone from scavenging or attacking while we are engaged.

Ultimately we can be a partnership but not until the super alliances go away I fear.

Take your time on this but we are dead serious.

~ Das

skulkrinbait wrote:
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DIGG will do anything to preserve their number 1 status, they are pretending to be friendly with you to try to stop you attacking them.

Now we've dropped our pact with DIGG they fear Pantheon, simple as that, which is why they are trying this trick.

If you are serious about doing something about DIGG now is the time to strike, before their new influx of players can get to a position to be useful to them.

If you attack them, there's a good chance Morkin will cover your backs and take on certain alliances that might want to help DIGG, Orc for example.

If you do attack DIGG, make sure you hit Phil299 hard, he loses the plot when his isles are red!

[Sol]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm willing to take DIGG. That's all I have to say about that.

EDIT

ONLY if Pantheon agrees to split when they're done with DIGG.

[Clausewitz]

My advice to him was something along the lines of making sure to put on his beekeepers mask, because the little fellows would be swarming with all that honey Lemonion must be pouring in his hears...

[SkulkrinBait]

All this talk of honey and lemon is making me think of pancakes, what about you Sol?

;D

Back on topic, should we go with Pantheon?

[Sol]

Yes. Sol loves pancakes! *eager*

Wait...I won't be too eager this time because chances are we won't go to war since its never "the right time"