DBS Official Forum

[Ruku]

z10.invisionfree.com/IKC/index.php?showtopic=1274

[Gornall]

Who leaked is the worry.

I honestly couldn't care what Natmus did. It was unfair and "dirty" play but thats not my problem.

I'm more worried that someone with access to the more secret parts of the forum sent screen shots incriminating our leaders.

[Clausewitz]

I agree 100%, Gornall.

I had a suspicion this morning that there was a leak. I had no idea it was somebody, allegedly, in the Morkin "inner circle".

Why they would not talk to Natmus directly and/or privately, or express their concerns with the group (assuming this is legitimate, and not a DIGG attempt to take pressure off their own "multi bank"), is beyond me.

To the leak: You have supremely disappointed me. These are people who have been your friends for how many years? I sincerely hope that, if this is all true, that somebody hacked a forum account, and someone has not betrayed their friends.

[Tomthebuffalo]

Agreed again.
But nonetheless, IK is baying for blood - and regardless of whether its a leak or a hacking... we will need to deal with the mob. But I'm too tired.

Will help again tommorow! I'm exhausted.

[Clausewitz]

So far, DIGG is the only one "baying for blood" (sorry, not familiar with that expression ).

Pantheon's internal response: [paraphrase from various posts on their relevant topic] "DIGG is going to milk this. They're trying to make a rift in Pantheon-Morkin."

[Gornall]

clausewitz said:

So far, DIGG is the only one "baying for blood" (sorry, not familiar with that expression ).

Pantheon's internal response: [paraphrase from various posts on their relevant topic] "DIGG is going to milk this. They're trying to make a rift in Pantheon-Morkin."

Goes with out saying really, Digg have being slating us for a good few months now but I still think we should keep up our black out.

We need to stop posting on the Publics and stick to the plan.

[Warliter]

I think we should perhaps approach Pantheon Admins so that no such rift occurs

[Arminius]

Looking at some of the screen shots, there are tabs on what looks like the Digg forum. So it has to be someone who has access to those.

That limits the number of potential leakers on our side, and makes me believe it's been a hack and not a leak. I'm pretty sure it was somebody from Digg, or it could be somebody from another related alliance. Infinity, who posted them, also has access to the Digg forum.

[Pose]

well spotted arminius exalt.

[DrieZ/Cesium]

I nevertheless have to express my feelings of decreasing respect for Natmus, kinda hacking the DBS-account.

But I'm willing to listen to the story of our inner circle admins.

[eproxy]

gornall said:

Who leaked is the worry.

I honestly couldn't care what Natmus did. It was unfair and dirty play but thats not my problem.

I'm more worried that someone with access to the more secret parts of the forum sent screen shots incriminating our leaders.

Also agreed; we have our own equivolent, as far as I'm concerned, to the papal bulls; Omne Datum Optimum, Milites Templi, and Militia Dei that is issued to all members - or at least original members. The aftermath of this will certainly be intersesting to see though.

[Null]

arminius said:

Looking at some of the screen shots, there are tabs on what looks like the Digg forum. So it has to be someone who has access to those.

That limits the number of potential leakers on our side, and makes me believe it's been a hack and not a leak. I'm pretty sure it was somebody from Digg, or it could be somebody from another related alliance. Infinity, who posted them, also has access to the Digg forum.

You'll notice now that they have been conveniently whited out from the screenshots....interesting.

[domhnall]

The Ik.com forum is demanding an explanation- which is problematic.

That WAS Nat's explanation. He had access to what he thought was an unwanted account and decided to play a prank with it.

It was a surprise to everyone how out of hand it got.

[blazed]

I'd like to now how things escalated so much. Natmus says he sent off an attack or two - but wasn't there lots and lots of attacks sent off that everyone was up in arms about?

[Natmus]

blazed said:

I'd like to now how things escalated so much. Natmus says he sent off an attack or two - but wasn't there lots and lots of attacks sent off that everyone was up in arms about?

Oh, yes, I must have sent off upwards of a hundred attacks. It's just that most of them was a single SMS. From O6 to O7, and from O7 to O5 and everything aimed to spread out the red lights as long as possible. As you can read I then sent a few 200 LWS clearing fleets against one isle, and single 200 LWS against 2 other (one of which made a good unintentional kampf) to make Phil uncertain about all the fake attacks. He panicked even more than anticipated.

Remember the context of the time. Orcs were suiciding on us, a proxy war from DIGG's side, especially led by Phil. Some Orcs got refuge in DIGG with the DIGG leaders smirking about payback for us giving asylum to an E|S player. Stoner shipments appearing on Orc isles where no stoners existed on other Orc isles.