Clausewitz
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Post by Clausewitz on Aug 28, 2007 3:25:00 GMT
Long story short - I grabbed an isle in 14:5x, and fended off (through pure luck) a couple colo attempts.
Now J-Ro (via Loafnut) is going nuts that it was a DIGG-cleared island.
I know for a fact from ajdub that it was cleared quite some time ago (by ajdub) for farming purposes. Loafnut and J-Ro are asserting that since it was DIGG-cleared, it belongs to DIGG.
I've told them that my understanding is that Morkin does not apply an indefinite statute of limitations to cleared islands, and that a farm is a farm - farming an island and clearing it for those purposes does not constitute a claim.
Am I mistaken in this assessment? I definitely don't want to make an assumption that will bite me in the Culo! when Loafnut inevitably brings this up.
For the record, ajdub told me about this isle a few days ago, and invited me to grab it - hence I've told Loafnut that it should be a moot point by either alliances colonization etiquette. My understanding is that ajdub had been farming it for several weeks.
This isn't the first time I've run into this with DIGG. It's getting rather tiresome...
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McGoogus
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Post by McGoogus on Aug 28, 2007 3:30:51 GMT
If they've been farming it, they probably have made back enough resources to cover any losses they've taken. Just my 2 cents, but I don't believe much in claims anymore. It's impossible to draw a line somewhere in the middle of a valid and invalid claim.
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Freiegeister
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Post by Freiegeister on Aug 28, 2007 5:18:07 GMT
Creating a farm doesn't give you a claim over it. Once it becomes unowned it's anyones for the taking.
Two years of farming on .co.uk has taught me to evaluate whether creating a farm would cover the costs before it disappeared or was free for colonisation by anyone. And it was a lot easy as a potential farm could have a level 30 storehouse with ~230k gold. You just never knew if tomorrow was the day it got tsunami'd.
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Aug 28, 2007 7:58:11 GMT
What they said. Creating a farm is not the same as claiming it. Once it becomes rulerless it's fair game, just like it's fair game if you find someone else's farm.
In the same vein, I don't think we respect if someone in DIGG goes inactive, and his isles goes rulerless. Those are also fair game, and doesn't 'belong' to DIGG.
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AeroS
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Post by AeroS on Aug 28, 2007 16:30:47 GMT
Loafnut just screwed me out of an island using this same claim. DO NOT GIVE IT BACK!! stoner drop it, thats what they did to me.
EDIT: I am going to start clearing all the inactive in my oceans and then post them to DIGG as claimed.
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Post by Gornall on Aug 28, 2007 17:08:15 GMT
Why what happened with loafnut AeRoS?
Same dispute I was helping with?
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