Post by Gornall on Aug 2, 2007 21:41:48 GMT
Had enough of this guy. Everytime I colo he damn near colos over me.
I spent 2 days clearing an isle, lost 400lws well over 2k spears and few hundred archers. 21 cats and 2 colos for this damn isle.
He loses 118 on what is pretty much a sniping attempt and wants me to pay him back.
Top to bottom as usual.
doku
5 minutes ago
RE: RE: Yo!
I still did clear part of it. A significant part of it. My loss is real, what I cleared is real. You now possess that island I loss my fleet clearing. I lost the fleet that you would have lost clearing it yourself. I saved you 118 LWS. I fully expect compensation. And I would argue this with you and your diplomat to the end, Because my loss is as real as the legs I'm standing on.
But to make the compensation easier to take. If you suicide equivelent fleet on an target for me to colonize. We can call it even. What do you think?
Gornall wrote:
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Regardless of whether or not you attacked, I would have cleared that isle with the same amount of fleets. You attacked a rulerless isle once and expect compensation for it?
In short, you attacked an isle once where I attacked it 3 times.
I could understand compensation if you had cleared it, and then i colo'd over it, but in this case I cleared the isle, and also colo'd it.
At the end of the day you dont have a leg to stand on and I shall be leaving it to the diplomats.
Regards
doku
30 minutes ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
Yes, It's no body's fault. But that fleet did help clear the island for you to colonize. The island is in your possession. You are reaping the reward of my dead fleet. Your new pre-build island will make up for any loss you incurred during clearing over time.
Gornall wrote:
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That aint my fault then mate.
Will do.
doku
1 hour ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
I did spy, I thought that was the orginal defense. I thought it was a newly ownerless. Let me know what your alliance say.
thanks
Gornall wrote:
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I'll see what I can do, but honestly can't afford anything mate.
See what my alliance says and I'll get back to you.
You suicided on an isle that was already undergoing clearing. Spent a good few days clearing that isle so if you had spied you would have known.
I had to send two clearing fleets. Lost entire of them both and mopped up with a third then a colo.
doku
1 hour ago
RE: RE: Yo!
Yes, you got there first. But I'm not asking for damages done on my colo fleet hiting your wall. I'm asking for compensation for my suicide fleet dying for your successful coloization.
I may have failed to add smilies in my messages. I was just being forward. But none of that has anything to do with my fleet that's now lost for your success. Bottom line is you got a nice new island. I have a dead fleet. You owe me for helping you get that island.
Gornall wrote:
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Well I've contacted eproxy, mainly just for a bit of advice.
Feel like you were trying to intimidate me mate. Came on a bit aggressive at first which I why I responded a bit cynical. Apologies if that wasn't the case.
If I was in a position to pay compensation I would but, surely you can understand.
I lost 3x the amount you did which is 3 times the value. 3x as long to rebuild.
Sounds selfish but I come first at the moment mate.
doku
1½ hours ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
Who should I be in contact with?
Gornall wrote:
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Wouldn't go as far to say I was being rude. Maybe a bit cynical at the most.
Don't worry, I have already contacted them. Save you the hassle mate.
Tables were turned I wouldnt be asking for compensation I would just put it down to bad luck and move on.
doku wrote:
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This has nothing to do with our alliance relations. This is colo etiquette. No matter what my size is. 118 LWS is still a lot. 153400 gold is my loss.
I understand your in no position to pay such a price tag. But due to your rude and what I called bad manners, I will be pushing for the whole cost. I can wait. I will be trying to get in touch of your management.
Thanks
Gornall wrote:
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You practically cleared bugger all mate.
As it stands I don't think cleared/lost enough to justify me paying you back. I cleared over 3/4 of that isle. Compared to my size it cost me a bloody lot and can't afford to be forking out compensation for someone who got there too late.
Sorry mate, I know Digg/Morkin have good relations and I appreciate you did lose some, but I am in no position to be forking out the compensation.
Maybe in a bit I might pay for half as a gesture of good faith but at the moment I can't.
Sorry.
doku
2 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
Because it's how it's done. The guy who keeps the island pays the guy who help cleared it.
Gornall wrote:
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Why?
You wanna compensate mine? lol
Isle wasn't mine when you lost stuff. Your losses marginal compared to what I lost and compared to your size.
what 200LWS to you mate really? Don't you think you could give the little guy a break and let him enjoy a new isle. Lol.
doku
2 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
That's fine, Do you mind compensate for my loss?
Gornall wrote:
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Attack on o7?_Ichigo (7:79:7)
Units of Gornall
Total Losses
Large Warships 250 250
Spearfighters 950 950
Archers 138 138
Catapults 21 21
Units of rulerless Island
Total Losses
Large Warships 206 126
Small Warships 13 8
Small Merchant Ships 4 2
Stone Throwers 251 154
Spearfighters 1926 1181
Catapults 33 20
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 10)
Laboratory Level 3 (Destruction: 2)
The isle mine mate. Sorry to be abrupt but its true.
doku
2 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: Yo!
That attack report was against a rulerless before you took it. May I ask how much you cleared?
Gornall wrote:
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u cant have lost all them against this isle cause i never put anything on it.
so long as no cats it ok.
sorry for lack of grammar, typin on ps3
I spent 2 days clearing an isle, lost 400lws well over 2k spears and few hundred archers. 21 cats and 2 colos for this damn isle.
He loses 118 on what is pretty much a sniping attempt and wants me to pay him back.
Top to bottom as usual.
doku
5 minutes ago
RE: RE: Yo!
I still did clear part of it. A significant part of it. My loss is real, what I cleared is real. You now possess that island I loss my fleet clearing. I lost the fleet that you would have lost clearing it yourself. I saved you 118 LWS. I fully expect compensation. And I would argue this with you and your diplomat to the end, Because my loss is as real as the legs I'm standing on.
But to make the compensation easier to take. If you suicide equivelent fleet on an target for me to colonize. We can call it even. What do you think?
Gornall wrote:
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Regardless of whether or not you attacked, I would have cleared that isle with the same amount of fleets. You attacked a rulerless isle once and expect compensation for it?
In short, you attacked an isle once where I attacked it 3 times.
I could understand compensation if you had cleared it, and then i colo'd over it, but in this case I cleared the isle, and also colo'd it.
At the end of the day you dont have a leg to stand on and I shall be leaving it to the diplomats.
Regards
doku
30 minutes ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
Yes, It's no body's fault. But that fleet did help clear the island for you to colonize. The island is in your possession. You are reaping the reward of my dead fleet. Your new pre-build island will make up for any loss you incurred during clearing over time.
Gornall wrote:
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That aint my fault then mate.
Will do.
doku
1 hour ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
I did spy, I thought that was the orginal defense. I thought it was a newly ownerless. Let me know what your alliance say.
thanks
Gornall wrote:
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I'll see what I can do, but honestly can't afford anything mate.
See what my alliance says and I'll get back to you.
You suicided on an isle that was already undergoing clearing. Spent a good few days clearing that isle so if you had spied you would have known.
I had to send two clearing fleets. Lost entire of them both and mopped up with a third then a colo.
doku
1 hour ago
RE: RE: Yo!
Yes, you got there first. But I'm not asking for damages done on my colo fleet hiting your wall. I'm asking for compensation for my suicide fleet dying for your successful coloization.
I may have failed to add smilies in my messages. I was just being forward. But none of that has anything to do with my fleet that's now lost for your success. Bottom line is you got a nice new island. I have a dead fleet. You owe me for helping you get that island.
Gornall wrote:
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Well I've contacted eproxy, mainly just for a bit of advice.
Feel like you were trying to intimidate me mate. Came on a bit aggressive at first which I why I responded a bit cynical. Apologies if that wasn't the case.
If I was in a position to pay compensation I would but, surely you can understand.
I lost 3x the amount you did which is 3 times the value. 3x as long to rebuild.
Sounds selfish but I come first at the moment mate.
doku
1½ hours ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
Who should I be in contact with?
Gornall wrote:
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Wouldn't go as far to say I was being rude. Maybe a bit cynical at the most.
Don't worry, I have already contacted them. Save you the hassle mate.
Tables were turned I wouldnt be asking for compensation I would just put it down to bad luck and move on.
doku wrote:
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This has nothing to do with our alliance relations. This is colo etiquette. No matter what my size is. 118 LWS is still a lot. 153400 gold is my loss.
I understand your in no position to pay such a price tag. But due to your rude and what I called bad manners, I will be pushing for the whole cost. I can wait. I will be trying to get in touch of your management.
Thanks
Gornall wrote:
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You practically cleared bugger all mate.
As it stands I don't think cleared/lost enough to justify me paying you back. I cleared over 3/4 of that isle. Compared to my size it cost me a bloody lot and can't afford to be forking out compensation for someone who got there too late.
Sorry mate, I know Digg/Morkin have good relations and I appreciate you did lose some, but I am in no position to be forking out the compensation.
Maybe in a bit I might pay for half as a gesture of good faith but at the moment I can't.
Sorry.
doku
2 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
Because it's how it's done. The guy who keeps the island pays the guy who help cleared it.
Gornall wrote:
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Why?
You wanna compensate mine? lol
Isle wasn't mine when you lost stuff. Your losses marginal compared to what I lost and compared to your size.
what 200LWS to you mate really? Don't you think you could give the little guy a break and let him enjoy a new isle. Lol.
doku
2 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Yo!
That's fine, Do you mind compensate for my loss?
Gornall wrote:
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Attack on o7?_Ichigo (7:79:7)
Units of Gornall
Total Losses
Large Warships 250 250
Spearfighters 950 950
Archers 138 138
Catapults 21 21
Units of rulerless Island
Total Losses
Large Warships 206 126
Small Warships 13 8
Small Merchant Ships 4 2
Stone Throwers 251 154
Spearfighters 1926 1181
Catapults 33 20
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Destruction
Main House Level 1 (Destruction: 10)
Laboratory Level 3 (Destruction: 2)
The isle mine mate. Sorry to be abrupt but its true.
doku
2 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: Yo!
That attack report was against a rulerless before you took it. May I ask how much you cleared?
Gornall wrote:
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u cant have lost all them against this isle cause i never put anything on it.
so long as no cats it ok.
sorry for lack of grammar, typin on ps3