little problem with schleppo [DIGG]

[Ruku]

so heres the deal. I saw a 1 point unruled isle so sent a colo fleet with cats (which was an accident as iv been used to it as normal practice with attacking ppl recently)

anyway 'schleppo' got to the isle abour an hour+ before i did so i couldnt recall the colo. anyway i colo'd over it. which was then quickly colo'd over by our own 'Nemesis' lol.

Any how i come back to a mail saying this:

schleppo
6 hours ago
RE: colo attempt
I expect compensation for my lost colo ship (35k in gold). Also, I would like to take the island back when I have another colo ship built.


I will post the rest of the convo's so far in the next post

[Ruku]

schleppo
6 minutes ago
colo attempt
I know i noted an admin from our sister aliance KoM about the situation.
As for the cats that must have been a mistake, just something im used to doing when attacking.

As i said it was empty when i sent my colo so it was just unlucky timings on our part.

If you want to get arsey then fair enough.

Im having nothing to do with it the isle is no longer in my possesion but instead an alliance member, take it up with him as he would have to pay me anyway.

And i dont really appreciate you insinuating me trying to show aggresion towards DIGG when i have just fought along side them in a large war. As far as i am concerned they are comrades and no hostility was shown what so ever.

I will repeat, it was just bad timing for both of us. End of story.



schleppo
1 hour ago
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: colo attempt
Well, it still may have something to do with you since you were the one to colo over me. Our diplos are aware of the situation and I'm sure between you, nemesis, and them, we can reach an agreement.

As far as my "stupid demands", while I would agree that standard code of conduct dictates a simple colo-over would require either compensation OR the isle, the fact that you sent cats and attacked my MH could be seen as an act of aggression and hostility. I'm sure Luxor would have issue with any of their members attacking an isle belonging to a pact alliance, especially DIGG, without just cause.

As I said before, our diplos are aware of the situation.

Ruku wrote:
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ah so it is nothing to do with me now then mate, sorry.
Also i would like to say dont make such stuipid demands in future.
You either take compensation or the isle, not both. Those are generally something you abide by.

Regards

Ruku


schleppo
3 hours ago
RE: RE: RE: colo attempt
No, your alliance mate Nemesis colo'd you over. You didn't notice that?

Ruku wrote:
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havent you already taken the isle back?

schleppo wrote:
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I expect compensation for my lost colo ship (35k in gold). Also, I would like to take the island back when I have another colo ship built.

Ruku wrote:
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Hi i sent a colo attempt last night before the isle was taken obviously, unfortunatly it will land in 1 hour and theres no way for me to stop it.
If by chance i am succesful in colonising what sort of compensation would you be looking at?

Sorry for the inconvinience

Regards
Ruku

[Ruku]

So what would you guys suggest because it seems like hes actually trying to pick a fight which is annoying me somewhat because i really cant be bothered with him

[2kcastle]

I really must make the effort and talk to some of the digg diplomats, the digg members brandish them like some sort of apocalyptic weapon they can unleash. i think every single conversation ive read with a digg member in it mentions them.

As to the isle i don't think thats going to be an easy one to settle, I dont think he's deliberately trying to annoy you, they just all seem to think everyone should agree to their way of doing it. My advice is to get a morkin diplomat onto it as soon as possible and talk to nemesis and see what he thinks because i cant see him giving up that isle.

[Ruku]

this was his reply:

Nobody's getting "arsey". If anything, I'm being terse. I know of our allies role in recent wars and appreciate it. It's because of this recent history that I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible, not in spite of it. You were the one who escalated this situation by pointing out my supposedly "stupid demands".

That, however, is not the point. By your own admission, you made a "mistake" sending cats, which is in poor form when colonizing a 1 pointer. I value the camaraderie of our brother alliances as much as anyone in DIGG, but am I expected to bear the cost of your "mistake" all by myself?

I have communicated with Nemesis and he does not feel any responsibility lies with him. So you point the finger at him and he points the finger at you. Where does that leave me? SOL with no isle and a flushed colo ship.

Unfortunately it is not yet "end of story" as a resolution has not yet been reached that is satisfactory.

[Ruku]

anyway the attack report shows that i didnt destroy the main house, therefore it wasnt built up, therefore the cats are irrelevant.
Im going to message nemesis because as he aparently 'owes' me a colo and i owe the fella a colo it might as well go straight from nemesis as its a shorter route.

[AeroS]

Half a colo. Generally half colo cost is expected when this happens, that way you both forfiet 1 and a half the cost of a colo ship.

[Ruku]

Well Nemesis reffered me to his PD (as i was hoping)

If you send catapults with your collo ships at my new tsunami isles, i will take this as an act of war and act accordingly.

- If i plunder your new isle, having sent my fleet before you took the isle, i will keep what i plunder as i don't expect what i lose from my new isles in the same way, to be returned.

- My collo fleets never come with cats so don't reinforce your new isles or i will be looking for compensation.

- If i take an isle from you without cats, i will keep and you will be compensated nothing. Likewise, if you take an isle from me without cats, you keep, no questions asked.


So i emailed the other player reffering him to this also. If he is good and replies nicley then i shall compensate him to some degree.

[Cesium]

While sending cats with a colo ship would normally mean that the first player to get the isle would keep it and the sender of the cats would be in the wrong, the fact that the cats didn't do anything pretty much means that the Digger didn't up his MH in time, and therefore isn't entitled to much.

[Ruku]

I think i might be kind and give him something

[eproxy]

cesium said:

While sending cats with a colo ship would normally mean that the first player to get the isle would keep it and the sender of the cats would be in the wrong, the fact that the cats didn't do anything pretty much means that the Digger didn't up his MH in time, and therefore isn't entitled to much.

Ruku made a mistake; the catapults did actually knock down the Main House from level 2. Nonetheless this should all be sorted.