Imperial Rats

[SkulkrinBait]

imperial-rats
44 minutes ago
RE: Attacks
You'll have to do better than that. Anyway, I can't recall them.

imperial-rats wrote:
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Please stop all attacks & please recall if possible the attack to my ocean 11 isle.. 11:5:1

As if just joined FOIMP & you have a PT with them.

Me, to Aspen, FOIMP admin.

Imperial Rats
This player was a primary target of ours in MX and we will continue to attack him, despite our pact.

Rest assured we have no quarrel whatsoever with FOIMP and wont be attacking any other members.

Did Imperial Rats make you aware of this situation?

Thanks and sorry if another admin from Morkin already told you this stuff, I've been offline most of today.

His reply and my reply:

Aspen
6 minutes ago
RE: RE: Imperial Rats
Maybe, I'm not in a position to speak for the whole alliance due to the way our alliance is organised, we don't have a head admin as such.

Perhaps a compromise? No more attacks after midnight tonight or some other deadline, I need to discuss the matter and will get back to you.

Thanks for the support.

Aspen wrote:
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I just mailed DIGG about this.

I am all for your side in this war, I hate l3x-x and all his cronies. But, my pact with Phoenix holds us out of this. So I contribute by stealing members from other alliances and removing them from the war for you.

I will not be able to carry on if I cannot protect them, so I would be very grateful if you could leave him, and any future defectors alone.

Also, when the enemy is weak enough, we will doubtless step in and colonise any isles you ask us to. I myself have taken l3x-x's isles as I please.

So, do we have I deal? FOIMP aids you in this "behind the scenes" manner and you give our turncoats a break.

I'm the most reasonable admin in Morkin, probably and even I find that unacceptable for 2 reasons:

1. We are likely to have attacks already in the water that can't be recalled.

2. Word will soon get out that anyone leaving MX for your alliance or any pacted with Morkin will be left alone. That would see you getting a lot of MX members which we wouldn't be happy with, especially if it was Troian for one!

I believe a compromise is fair, such as the timescale I mentioned, or something along those lines. I'll confer with my admins and see what they think.


Aspen wrote:
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Propose my proposition to the alliance, ie, as soon as they have FOIMP under their name, leave them alone, and if any of your members have a problem, ask them to mail me and we can discuss compromises on an individually tailored basis as all cases will be different.

[Arminius]

Hang on, MOST REASONABLE? What cr*p is that???


No way are we letting people go like that. No amnesties. The people they bullied didn't have the same opportunity. I'd rather cancel the pact with FOIMP.

[Shendemiar]

Tell him we have no times for this idle debate. All ex-MX players are marked. If they want to pull themselves in the shooting range then fine.

[SkulkrinBait]

OK, will let Aspen know that anyone from MX who jumps ship is fair game, pact or not.

[beast]

If we are going to hunt down EVERY member that jumps ship we are going to clash horns with an awful lot of Alliances of this? Is it worth it for some of the smaller fry?

[Null]

beast said:

If we are going to hunt down EVERY member that jumps ship we are going to clash horns with an awful lot of Alliances of this? Is it worth it for some of the smaller fry?

Not an awful lot, suprisingly...it would seem to just be FOIMP gathering up the runaways

For primary targets however, I don't think running should be a viable option. Regular members, sure.

[Shendemiar]

beast said:

If we are going to hunt down EVERY member that jumps ship we are going to clash horns with an awful lot of Alliances of this? Is it worth it for some of the smaller fry?

We dont automaticly hunt down everyone. We just reserve the right to do so. Like if Troian or Mer escaped to somewhere.

[Haymaker]

I agree with Shendemiar. Reservation of our right to attack defectors is important, or, as Skulk pointed out, people would just take advantage of us not doing so. Harboring defectors is more or less unanimously frowned upon in all IK worlds.

[beast]

I agree that major players in the alliances we are at war with cannot hide from us. The smaller fish though....whats the final view on this.... I have a couple near who have moved ....I can leave them alone.. I can attack them ....what is the alliances stance

[inyati]

Attacking ex-MX players that have moved is to be halted. Imperial rats, mer, and Troian are the only exception if they move.

[Harlequin]

It's just one island of Imperial rats that I'm after. 11:14:6 and then I'd consider a ceasefire...


...unless others have a taste for his blood, in which case...

[Shendemiar]

beast said:

I agree that major players in the alliances we are at war with cannot hide from us. The smaller fish though....whats the final view on this.... I have a couple near who have moved ....I can leave them alone.. I can attack them ....what is the alliances stance

Generally no for small fishes.

Whats their names? If we have had something on their heads then yes, otherwise no.

[Harlequin]

beast said:

I agree that major players in the alliances we are at war with cannot hide from us. The smaller fish though....whats the final view on this.... I have a couple near who have moved ....I can leave them alone.. I can attack them ....what is the alliances stance

MX targets
All the members who are still in MX

armthehomeless 1 isle
Cait_Sith 10 isles
clackers
DevilBlade 3 isles O21
glaurung 9 isles mainly O12
Godlike 1 isle
grinningkid 2 isles O11
jack_goundrill 6 isles mainly O34
Jayh21 score 1
JoeD 1 isle
Kellanved 4 isles O12
Lu-Bu 2 isles
matthew 10 isles O2,16, 32
Mer 10 isles O1
Mezla 3 isles O12
mikeyb 2 islands and not happy ;D
Mr_Lee 4 isles O16
Neomorphic 1 isle
nocdkey 1 isle
Quazi 7 isles O41
Rufler 1 isle
Sarpedon 3 isles O12
Shmaughn 2 isles O16
Sparksy 2 isles O12
Stalin 8 isles O4 inactive
Tn6 1 isle
Troian 7 isles O34
Zoidberg 2 isles O1 O2

There's not many that are worth it IMHO

[SkulkrinBait]

I did flatten one of Imperial Rats islands but failed to colonise it, if anyone wants it then just go for it, 11:5:1

That was a day or so ago so you probably need a small clearing fleet first, I don't want to use up any more colony ships ATM.