H|F Treaty

[Arminius]

Just sent this to pain:

pain
1 minute ago
RE: Phoenix
Well, I see less and less chance for your peace deal to become reality. Phoenix are now attacking us, so I think our members will not accept it if we suddenly make peace. At least not without reparations.

Also, the rubbish that Dyers spouts from whatever orifice that is it comes out of does not help either. It's a bit reminiscient of Hitler declaring that victory is near in April 1945. Not even those two admins that have left MX would say that we have suffered from their military might. The two remaining ones might say that, but they don't count


pain wrote:
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Now that you have MX gone, you going after phoenix? Just as a heads up, that will make things very sticky for us....not sure what the current dynamic is between morkin/phoenix. Just wanted to touch base.

Cheers.

[Tomthebuffalo]

Why dont we simply, play out negotiations with H|F for as long as possible. If the scheme worked, it would mean that
a) H|F would remain out of this, and simply assume that we're still thinking of peace, and
b) still allows us to do what the fudge we want to pheonix, while we havenet formally entered any binding agreement.

What I mean is, say to H|F things like... "we accept your terms.... bla bla bla... but must wait on alliance poll.... two days for poll to complete... say it was deleted accidentally... needs another two days...."

H|F wont get involved if they think peace is on the horizon, and with them firmly out of it, we quickly finish of Pheonix.

Maybe I misinterpreted the situation though, was a bad weekend for me to miss!

[Clausewitz]

Along the lines of tom's comments, I sent the following to DBK and Pain this morning, on behalf of DIGG...

Hey gentlemen.

Fun week on IK, eh?

I have been authorized to negotiate a CEASEFIRE between DIGG and H|F on behalf of DIGG.

I am currently with Morkin, but am a former Admin of DIGG, and authorized to speak on their behalf.

DIGG has long held H|F in high respect, and given the fact that only Pain and Mr_Ecko have attacked DIGG, there is not yet any bad-blood. The latest isle-count puts the DIGG coalition at +200 islands, and the E|S coalition at +60 islands.

Now that MX is officially out of the fight, there is no desire to see H|F shoulder the military brunt of this war on behalf of E|S.

A cessation in further hostilities could be implemented immediately, if it was so desired by H|F, to allow for this negotiation to take place.

E|S with their mega-accounts is a far greater threat to this game than a mega-alliance; large member alliances fragment and divide, large player accounts can become near-invincible. With the tide so heavily against E|S, it appears that H|F may be poised to score dozens of undefended islands from an alliance that is relying on others to fight for them.

I will be in touch, and await your response.

-Clausewitz

It keeps the notion of a ceasefire on the table, while attempting to remove the binding to Phoenix. It also panders to their concerns that they are fighting a war FOR the Germans, rather than WITH the Germans.

And on par with what skulkrinbait said, it attempts to keep them out of the fight and into protracted discussions so that DIGGers can satisfy their demand for justice against Phoenix (particularly Dyers).

[Arminius]

Another exchange with DBK:

DBK
2 minutes ago
RE: RE: final
ok,
Well let me know when you do.
Digg are taking too long to decide, so i think we are going to start our war efforts properly in their direction, should be easy enough to beat them lol

Arminius wrote:
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No, sorry, we're still discussing. Though it doesn't look very good at the moment.

The question is, 'what's in it for us?' Phoenix have attacked us, and just as we're about to retaliate they want to withdraw. Presumably sitting on a lot of islands they got from the smaller Digg players.

I don't think there is any support for this within Morkin as it stands. Phoenix would have to make us an offer of some kind to convince us to stop.


DBK wrote:
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Did we get any final word on whether the deal was accepted?

[eproxy]

DBK thinks DIGG will be easy to take out? Where do these people get their intellegance from? Perhaps if they tried the in-game source of 'Alliance' 'Ranking', whilst size/scores are not totally reflective of strength their relation is much better than on IKUK (damn statues).