Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Dec 29, 2006 1:11:28 GMT
Just got this from cov: I don't really know what to make out of it, so I answered: Who has any information to add to cov's message? Also, would we fight for Elite? It would have to be some really bad people if we go to war in defense of Elite, methinks
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inyati
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Post by inyati on Dec 29, 2006 1:16:54 GMT
What if DIGG is envolved? We have a peace treaty with them and no diplomatic ties with Elite at all.... It better be over a VERY GOOD reason for us to meddle...says I....
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Post by bishop on Dec 29, 2006 2:27:22 GMT
What if DIGG is envolved? We have a peace treaty with them and no diplomatic ties with Elite at all.... It better be over a VERY GOOD reason for us to meddle...says I.... I agree, and I think that was a good response from Natmus, but I sympathise with Elite in principle. It was typically arrogant of them not to bother making any diplomatic connections to cater for this kind of scenario, but they at least play the game reasonably fairly. I'd easily categorise them as the lesser of the two evils, compared with Shadows, who seem to treat multi-accounting as a perfectly good strategy. The issue demonstrates that there are (unsurprisingly) some very immature people playing this game. It's inconceivable that attacking Elite is the most economical way of gaining territories; I'm sure that the situation has arisen from a small number of players who want to have 'a war' to demonstrate their superiority. Any conflict arising from this would be a disorganised mess anyway, with many fleets trashed for a small number of isles to change hands. So if diplomatic help doesn't work, then I'd leave them to it.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 29, 2006 6:59:05 GMT
Ooh, interesting, based on other rumours I've heard this does seem quite likely to be in the offing.
We should sit tight and see who is involved and then use this as an opportunity to weaken whoever we deem the "greatest evil".
There are a number of people in Elite who I think we need to watch out for, but there are others who are probably even more juicy targets!
I wonder if it's worth us building a colony ship each in case there are mains to be had?
;D
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Dec 29, 2006 9:13:05 GMT
A bit of more info from cov, in two parts: Our alliance page? He thinks we have room on that?
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 29, 2006 9:17:39 GMT
Isn't Tyrant in -S-? I can't check right now, due to the Ik site being blocked, but if so we should use this as an opportunity to hurt Tyrant.
Which alliances are Pumpit and Grover in?
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Dec 29, 2006 9:32:09 GMT
Pumpit is in -S- and Grover is in Elite. Anyway, I sent a message that I think they will have to take under consideration, all of them: I hope you can read between that I don't promise any aid, but that it's a possibility. Even so, making the admins our main targets should make them think twice
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Dec 29, 2006 9:42:05 GMT
I was too late, the first attacks have been sent. Oh well...
Now what? Wait it out?
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 29, 2006 9:49:01 GMT
Who's being attacked and by whom?
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Post by coruscation on Dec 29, 2006 10:43:42 GMT
I don't want to fight for elite.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 29, 2006 10:43:45 GMT
I think it might be worth getting a pact with Elite asap, I think they would be worthwhile allies to have in future and if we help them out now then they should feel obliged to help us if we need it in future.
My main concern about a pact with Elite is that we don’t really know many of their members very well and aren’t really on friendly terms with any of them, or are we?
Is anyone in a position to draw up a map showing where members are from FoM/Morkin vs Phoenix and –S- so we can assign targets? Assuming we do help Elite we need to coordinate closely with them to take advantage of opportunies to fleet catch, for example if someone in Elite is under attack they can tell us who it is and see if their main is then unguarded etc etc. We need to impress upon the admins in Elite that they need to tell us asap of any inbound attacks with as much detail as they can get and also what they are doing in terms of launching their own strikes.
Another point – it seems that other alliances are going to use the “target admins” strategy. Is it therefore worthwhile Morkin especially having more admins? They could just be admins in name only, but this would mean that any potential aggressors using this tactic would have more targets to cover and thus dilute their attacks. This server favours the defender much more than .co.uk did, so this might be a worthwhile option too.
All of this assumes that Phoenix/-S- really are planning an attack and actually carry it out of course!
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Arminius
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Post by Arminius on Dec 29, 2006 10:49:15 GMT
I'm not having a pact with Elite. Grover steal mains left right and centre, and I still don't like the way they abandoned the rest of WAR. They don't want any pacts, they have to fight alone. That's it.
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Post by 2kcastle on Dec 29, 2006 10:51:10 GMT
I'm uncomfortable with even the idea of helping elite. if the situations were reversed their attitude would be to leave us to it and conserve their fleets. i've asked a couple of players i know in mx and soh and they think elite brought this on themselves by spying on and threatening other alliances, they have a very cocky attitude that they cant back up and now they are begging for help. the best result i can see from this is elite and shadows fighting amongst themselves and losing heavily while we watch.
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Arminius
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Post by Arminius on Dec 29, 2006 10:51:40 GMT
Also, looking at their member list, there are some people in there that I absolutely don't like.
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Post by mmupatton on Dec 29, 2006 10:57:25 GMT
Also, looking at their member list, there are some people in there that I absolutely don't like. Now, I am definitely going to have a look ;D
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