Post by Arminius on Sept 1, 2007 22:50:31 GMT
This is about the island 2:88:23 -- Domhnall had attempted a colonisation which failed, and he was quite far away, so I, being closer, had a go and took it first time. From some spy reports we had noticed that this unruled isle had somehow lost some troops and ships, and the main house had been partly reduced (though it was still at level 4 when my clearing fleet hit it).
Once I got it, I built up the main house. Some Digger messages me, he's got a raiding fleet going, but as there's no defences I make sure the gold is all in the stoner queue and he takes some rocks instead.
Then Corleth's Rorthron smashes my house down, but his colonisation fails. Someone from Pantheon sends a clearing fleet, but his colo fleet is half a day later, so no worries. The house is still level 1, so I build up the tower instead. That guy then smashes the tower in collateral damage
But then, another fleet attacks. By this time the isle belonged to me for about five hours, and that guy is only 3 hrs away, so he knew it was mine when he launched. Again I leave the house, but he then smashes the barracks with his cats. I check him out, and he's got this on his profile:
2:88:23 is mine i dont take it I cleared it!
So that solves that riddle. I send a message to him, asking him about the attack, and also to one of his admins:
I get the following response:
My main house is now finally built up, and I go to bed, but not without sending two spies each to his islands (as it happens, one of each failed...). I wake up the next morning and a colo attack by that guy failed on my main house. That attack was sent shortly after (or before?) I took the isle, but was clearly in recalling range. I also have the following message in my inbox:
and also
I replied (copying in his admin):
His admin's reply:
and finally his own reply:
Either he's very sarcastic, or he's scared of me. Also, no claims or requests whatsoever, and that when he lost 190 LWS and stuff. Instead he offers me compensation for the three levels of barracks that his cats destroyed.
I feel rather bad, as he suffered rather larger losses than me, and I got a 400 pt island pretty much for free. So I think I'm going to send him at least the cats and perhaps some gold as compensation. But I'm still annoyed that he attacked instead of contacting me. That makes me a little less willing to pay. What do you guys think?
The reason for posting this is to show you what a difference it makes to be in Morkin. LAMB is not a small alliance, and we haven't even got any treaties with them (or perhaps that scared them...?) In this case he cleared most of it, and he would have a claim by most people's way of playing.
Oh dear, my posts reach almost Ashimarian proportions!
Once I got it, I built up the main house. Some Digger messages me, he's got a raiding fleet going, but as there's no defences I make sure the gold is all in the stoner queue and he takes some rocks instead.
Then Corleth's Rorthron smashes my house down, but his colonisation fails. Someone from Pantheon sends a clearing fleet, but his colo fleet is half a day later, so no worries. The house is still level 1, so I build up the tower instead. That guy then smashes the tower in collateral damage
But then, another fleet attacks. By this time the isle belonged to me for about five hours, and that guy is only 3 hrs away, so he knew it was mine when he launched. Again I leave the house, but he then smashes the barracks with his cats. I check him out, and he's got this on his profile:
2:88:23 is mine i dont take it I cleared it!
So that solves that riddle. I send a message to him, asking him about the attack, and also to one of his admins:
The_Mark
23 hours ago
Attack
Hello,
I am Arminius, admin of Morkin. This morning I colonised an island near me, and after repulsing several attacks by other people who did the same I'm suddenly being attacked by one of your members, GodOfShampoo. Unlike the other guys, he's only 3hrs away, so he could clearly see the isle was no longer unowned.
He has not contacted me, and unless he ceases attacks immediately I will regard this as a hostile act and will react accordingly.
Regards,
Arminius
23 hours ago
Attack
Hello,
I am Arminius, admin of Morkin. This morning I colonised an island near me, and after repulsing several attacks by other people who did the same I'm suddenly being attacked by one of your members, GodOfShampoo. Unlike the other guys, he's only 3hrs away, so he could clearly see the isle was no longer unowned.
He has not contacted me, and unless he ceases attacks immediately I will regard this as a hostile act and will react accordingly.
Regards,
Arminius
I get the following response:
The_Mark
23 hours ago
RE: Attack
Oh dear.
I am not sure why he has attacked but can assure you he could not have wanted to purposefully attack you, Arminius. I will do my best to contact him about this as well.
Sorry about the disturbance.
Mark
23 hours ago
RE: Attack
Oh dear.
I am not sure why he has attacked but can assure you he could not have wanted to purposefully attack you, Arminius. I will do my best to contact him about this as well.
Sorry about the disturbance.
Mark
My main house is now finally built up, and I go to bed, but not without sending two spies each to his islands (as it happens, one of each failed...). I wake up the next morning and a colo attack by that guy failed on my main house. That attack was sent shortly after (or before?) I took the isle, but was clearly in recalling range. I also have the following message in my inbox:
GodOfShampoo
19 hours ago
RE: 2:88:23
sorry about that but i sent out an attack befor u took it, and i was also just finished with clearing the island 8.3k stonie, 314 SMS army and destroying it's main house 6 levels. i have been working on that island for a little wile and then you took it, can we talk something out?
Arminius wrote:
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Hi there,
why are you attacking this island? It belonged to me before you launched your attack.
Arminius
19 hours ago
RE: 2:88:23
sorry about that but i sent out an attack befor u took it, and i was also just finished with clearing the island 8.3k stonie, 314 SMS army and destroying it's main house 6 levels. i have been working on that island for a little wile and then you took it, can we talk something out?
Arminius wrote:
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Hi there,
why are you attacking this island? It belonged to me before you launched your attack.
Arminius
and also
GodOfShampoo
18 hours ago
colo ship
ya im sorry about that whole confusion. The_Mark just told me what is going on. I was have a 7 hour ride from my island to your new island and when i sent my colo fleet it was right after i cleared it a bunch and it was still ruler less. i just got back from work and saw the messages so i did not know that u took it and i would have PMed u before hand telling u what was coming but i was not able to so here is the scoop. i have one colo ship 45 min till arrival and it has 90 LWS and 450 speermen on it. I hope that we can be mature about things and talk it over, with out overreacting. Just to let you know i lost 190 LWS 450 bowmen 19 cats and 375 speermen, so i too suffered a great loss in forces and i know exactly how you feel. You must feel as if im a Ceffo! that does not know that you are one of the most powerful players in an alliance that has to be among the most prestigious alliances in the game! Well i do know that u can without a doubt wip my sorry little Culo! xP with out even trying.
So before any actions are taken into account please note that i was not able to check IK when you took it over and by the time i was able to check, i had a report form a failed spy report from ur island and a message from you and The_Mark telling me that my Culo! will get beaten down. So, any actions that will be done you and your alliance can feel free to do, but if you would like to, it would be nice to talk things out and see what we can work out between two mature people, and if you do end up wanting to destroy me then i will as of you, only me and to please not take this as and act of war from my alliance (LAMB) and go on attacking them but only do what you wish to me.
-Adam
18 hours ago
colo ship
ya im sorry about that whole confusion. The_Mark just told me what is going on. I was have a 7 hour ride from my island to your new island and when i sent my colo fleet it was right after i cleared it a bunch and it was still ruler less. i just got back from work and saw the messages so i did not know that u took it and i would have PMed u before hand telling u what was coming but i was not able to so here is the scoop. i have one colo ship 45 min till arrival and it has 90 LWS and 450 speermen on it. I hope that we can be mature about things and talk it over, with out overreacting. Just to let you know i lost 190 LWS 450 bowmen 19 cats and 375 speermen, so i too suffered a great loss in forces and i know exactly how you feel. You must feel as if im a Ceffo! that does not know that you are one of the most powerful players in an alliance that has to be among the most prestigious alliances in the game! Well i do know that u can without a doubt wip my sorry little Culo! xP with out even trying.
So before any actions are taken into account please note that i was not able to check IK when you took it over and by the time i was able to check, i had a report form a failed spy report from ur island and a message from you and The_Mark telling me that my Culo! will get beaten down. So, any actions that will be done you and your alliance can feel free to do, but if you would like to, it would be nice to talk things out and see what we can work out between two mature people, and if you do end up wanting to destroy me then i will as of you, only me and to please not take this as and act of war from my alliance (LAMB) and go on attacking them but only do what you wish to me.
-Adam
I replied (copying in his admin):
Attack
Hi,
I can see that you sent your colo attack before I took over the isle, but how do you explain your previous 'clearing attack' which took 3 hrs to reach the isle, but was sent 10hrs ago, while I took over the isle 18hrs ago? You must clearly have seen that the isle was no longer rulerless at that point.
You mention mature ways of solving this issue. I must say that the mature way would have been to send a message rather than a fleet.
I'm a peaceful player, so I don't intend to attack you. The spy ships were simply preparation should this case escalate. As I hadn't heard back from you by the time I went to bed I was not sure what kind of player you are.
Morkin has an island takeover policy, which states that whoever has built a main house level 2 on a rulerless isle has a claim to it. I see you expressed a claim on your profile, but unfortunately I forgot to check the roughly 4500 profiles to see if anybody was claiming that isle before I attacked it.
One of our players had also attacked it, but his colo attempt failed, and he was even further away than you, so I then had a go as I was closer.
I can see that you must have done some clearing and had losses, and that you're not too happy with this. Our policy in this case suggests that compensation for clearing is paid at the discretion of the person who took over the isle, depending on the conduct of the other person. You didn't message me with "OI THAT ISLE WOZ MINE U ...", but you sent an attack. I'm not sure which if the two is worse.
I will think about it and might send you some resources to contribute towards your losses, which I was able to avoid after all. And don't worry, I don't think there will be any further fighting, at least not on my part.
Arminius
Hi,
I can see that you sent your colo attack before I took over the isle, but how do you explain your previous 'clearing attack' which took 3 hrs to reach the isle, but was sent 10hrs ago, while I took over the isle 18hrs ago? You must clearly have seen that the isle was no longer rulerless at that point.
You mention mature ways of solving this issue. I must say that the mature way would have been to send a message rather than a fleet.
I'm a peaceful player, so I don't intend to attack you. The spy ships were simply preparation should this case escalate. As I hadn't heard back from you by the time I went to bed I was not sure what kind of player you are.
Morkin has an island takeover policy, which states that whoever has built a main house level 2 on a rulerless isle has a claim to it. I see you expressed a claim on your profile, but unfortunately I forgot to check the roughly 4500 profiles to see if anybody was claiming that isle before I attacked it.
One of our players had also attacked it, but his colo attempt failed, and he was even further away than you, so I then had a go as I was closer.
I can see that you must have done some clearing and had losses, and that you're not too happy with this. Our policy in this case suggests that compensation for clearing is paid at the discretion of the person who took over the isle, depending on the conduct of the other person. You didn't message me with "OI THAT ISLE WOZ MINE U ...", but you sent an attack. I'm not sure which if the two is worse.
I will think about it and might send you some resources to contribute towards your losses, which I was able to avoid after all. And don't worry, I don't think there will be any further fighting, at least not on my part.
Arminius
His admin's reply:
The_Mark
11 hours ago
RE: Attack II
Thanks for settling this in a mature fashion. I leave the rest to your discretion.
mark
11 hours ago
RE: Attack II
Thanks for settling this in a mature fashion. I leave the rest to your discretion.
mark
and finally his own reply:
GodOfShampoo
9 hours ago
RE: Attack II
lol yes, and I thank your for letting me live =P. and if i can do anything to help you out to make up for the cats u got hit with just ask, it is nice thought that we talked things out.
9 hours ago
RE: Attack II
lol yes, and I thank your for letting me live =P. and if i can do anything to help you out to make up for the cats u got hit with just ask, it is nice thought that we talked things out.
Either he's very sarcastic, or he's scared of me. Also, no claims or requests whatsoever, and that when he lost 190 LWS and stuff. Instead he offers me compensation for the three levels of barracks that his cats destroyed.
I feel rather bad, as he suffered rather larger losses than me, and I got a 400 pt island pretty much for free. So I think I'm going to send him at least the cats and perhaps some gold as compensation. But I'm still annoyed that he attacked instead of contacting me. That makes me a little less willing to pay. What do you guys think?
The reason for posting this is to show you what a difference it makes to be in Morkin. LAMB is not a small alliance, and we haven't even got any treaties with them (or perhaps that scared them...?) In this case he cleared most of it, and he would have a claim by most people's way of playing.
Oh dear, my posts reach almost Ashimarian proportions!
