Preventing areas having overwhelming advantages

[sparrowhawk]

Hi,

We've been playing with all the new lords etc for quite some time now, and I think that we all agree that there are areas that are too powerful or weak. Whilst I DON'T want to make all areas equally beneficial, as that would spoil the variety of game styles that players have to adopt depending on their start positions, I do feel that there is some leeway to make changes.

So I'd like suggestions on what to do. Here a couple to start with:

- Move the Hand somewhere else, or place him randomly (hopefully randomly placed lords will appear in the next release)
- Reduce the default armies of Kor, Vorgath and Grarg
-Give luxor another 500 riders
-Place the Spider randomly

Your comments, as ever, are much appreciated.
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[Ringthane]

Place any Wise randomly BUT always outside mountains.

Introduce fourth Wise, female.

Introduce Wolf Lord, random placement, with troops.

Place The Hand randomly BUT in Foul Country AND in a Keep.

Give Corleth some troops (1500r).

[Natmus]

Moving the Spider and the Hand somewhere else would be a good idea. Not too sure about the rest, as we need a lot more game testing before really understanding the changes made sincew last.

As I have stated a few times I think Targ and Wise speed made them too powerful in the recruitment phase, time penalties have balanced this out.

Generally I simply would like more time (that means more active games and especially active players, people!) to really understand the game as it is at present, before making further changes.

[Matija]

I don't think NW is overbearingly powerful EXCEPT for the number of citadels with 7c victory condition.

[sparrowhawk]

Matija said:

I don't think NW is overbearingly powerful EXCEPT for the number of citadels with 7c victory condition.

I think that the 7 citadel condition is going to be dropped altogether eventually, just keeping the 12 citadel condition, or making the number of citadels dependent on the number of players at the start of the game.

The VC whereby citadels are worth certain points, and keeps much less so, will be introduced replace the 7 citadel condition.

[Matija]

I find 7c games very intense and exciting, however. But that might be due to the fact that I've had a good start twice in a row.

[sparrowhawk]

Alternatively, I think that I mentioned that I could make the actual number user-definable at the game-creation stage. That would be most flexible and would cater for all preferences. You can always decline a game that you think has unrealistic winning conditions.