Broad coalition?

[Natmus]

With the departure of PF and DL I think that we can begin to normalise relations between Morkin and hawk.

The Morkin alliance is now looking for new objectives in this game, and I have been wondering how people feel about a broader coalition of alliances, Deadwind's federation of alliances for example.

For one thing we could band Morkin and hawk together to seek out those big players that helped DL and PF, and get back at them. [EDIT: Okay, that may be a little strong, but it's an example of topics we could discuss, not a suggestion of what I think we should do.] Or become a powerblock that can take the place of the old ones. The current ones, with FireFox as a prime example, are arrogant and corrupt with power, alliances like Wraith are known as the alliances of not a very nice persons that do whatever they like and prey on new defenseless players, and everybody seems to accept that's how it is in IK. Those who disagree strongly enough gets fed up and leave.

Us smaller alliances, us that newer will become that big can have a possibility to change it, if we want. Does anybody else share these sentiments?

[Arminius]

I actually had an exchange with DJPileggi of TheOrg a couple of days ago where I suggested the idea of our fleets combined sailing against a common enemy. He liked the idea, but said they were to weak still.

What better way to defeat PF than to have that level of cooperation with the hawksters? Like LaT, only an order of magnitude bigger...

[Perun]

I thought you meant "broad" as a "bird", a "piece od as.s"... How wrong of me! ;D

[blaydwoman]

that sounds like a good way to turn the game around. though what first needs to happen is getting everyone in hawk to agree. but if presented in the right way, just may work. that would be great and I am all for it.

[Natmus]

Invite them to this place, if they want to talk about it, or want to talk about any other subject.

[blaydwoman]

thats the problem i gave everyone the site and noone paid attention to it. i will try to give it to the admin and see if she can get the word out to ppl.

[blaydwoman]

just an update i sent it to Hawk admin Hessari hopefully she will check out this site and tell everyone else to check it out too.

[Hessari]

I have checked out this site before, though I only just read this topic.

I cannot speak for all of the alliance, but personally I am not in favor of this merge. The very idea of Hawk's goal in the game being to seek revenge against past grievances instead of simply having fun seems very sad to me.
What I can say is that several I know in the alliance favor moving on and putting this whole situation behind us, extending peace to Morkin in the form of a treaty.

However, I will most certainly direct alliance members here from our alliance board.

[Perun]

Just as I predicted: no peace...

[blaydwoman]

and its really getting to me i just want peace. come on Hawkers lets all be friends.

[Blacknight]

Yes I wholdheartedly agree to peace...however Hawk is not a militaristic alliance....and we do not seek revenge...I know many people that will leave Hawk if we get headed in that direction....

Blacknight

[Starshatter]

Hessari said:

I have checked out this site before, though I only just read this topic.

I cannot speak for all of the alliance, but personally I am not in favor of this merge. The very idea of Hawk's goal in the game being to seek revenge against past grievances instead of simply having fun seems very sad to me.
What I can say is that several I know in the alliance favor moving on and putting this whole situation behind us, extending peace to Morkin in the form of a treaty.

However, I will most certainly direct alliance members here from our alliance board.

I don't think we are on about a merger are we? We all have our own aims and goals, and join the alliance that suits them best. I think that there is enough common ground for us to operate certain joint operations. The only issues with Hawk for me concerned DL/PF. Other contacts have suggested we are not as far apart in terms of approach as recent events may have suggested. I don't want a merger, but would certainly back coalition action and support where appropriate.

[Hessari]

First of all, as I stated before, I do not speak for the whole alliance. Just because I do not wish to merge our forces does not mean it will not happen- my opinion is not the be-all and end-all.

And, to make it very, very clear, I never said I do not want peace between us. I've been fighting for a peaceful solution to this since the beginning, and it is still what I fight for. Never have I wavered in that, never will I. I would have hoped that would be obvious by now.
There can be peace without this coalition.

[Hessari]

majordefect said:

I don't think we are on about a merger are we? We all have our own aims and goals, and join the alliance that suits them best. I think that there is enough common ground for us to operate certain joint operations. The only issues with Hawk for me concerned DL/PF. Other contacts have suggested we are not as far apart in terms of approach as recent events may have suggested. I don't want a merger, but would certainly back coalition action and support where appropriate.

A coalition can work both ways, and if it ends in "certain join operations" I may very well support it.

[Arminius]

As I put this idea into the world, I better clarify what I meant: I was talking of the possibility of co-operation, not a merger or anything further than that. If hawk is peaceful, that's fine. But if you ever were to get into trouble, we could fight/defend together. That would be the ultimate defeat of the scheming PF.

BTW, I like "fighting for peace"

So there is peace, and anything going further than that should be considered with an open mind and respect for the other's opinion. As we're all reasonable and civilised people...