[Discussion] hawk, TheOrg and AW

[Arminius]

ringthane said:

arminius said:

Ringy, don't read this!

Why not? ;D

Because I assumed your reaction would be to send your fleet out to exterminate every single hawk... ;D Apologies, I forgot to put the smiley next to it...

[Arminius]

thecreator said:

Must d**n this game is more fun when you fight!

I guess that's why it is inselKAMPF rather than inselKOLONISIERUNG

Yeah, I've smelt blood. Where is the next target...?

I think we had it easy this time, as we co-incided with PF's attempt to take over DL's colonies. I wish I could have seen his face, as he thought he'd have another colony by lunch-time and then suddenly ends up being annihilated...

It took a lot of self-discipline to go to this lecture at 14:00, I can tell you!

[Starshatter]

On PF's home text

Well, since the Morkin aholes are doing what they do best and gang up on someone I am going to quit. No sense playing since I'm losing everything. Hope you are all happy. I know you've made my wife and son happy I'm quitting.

And on the note of Natmus, I do not take kindly towards being insulted in real life. So my behavior was well warranted. It takes cowards like yourself to attack like you've done.

Yes oh Yes! I feel Bloody great. Where next, blood brothers!!

[SkulkrinBait]

Aholes? See my personal text Mr PF or whatever you are called.......

[ashimar]

maroc said:

No...DL got the cats from one of her big friends at the time -Xalthorn , Matteo or suchlike....PF only had a shed, three bricks and a leaky dinghy back then....no cats...I'm certain..

Yes, Marco is completely right. Xalthorn however only gave her lots and lots of resources as he also told me he would be willing to fill my storehouses up to the brim if I got them to level 20. The sour point (but morally right I think) was that I thanked him but declined the offer. Something Darklady of course never did. I think MadMax gave her all those cats and Parwez may have too.

[ashimar]

Well the all of Hawk should be condoned for the attack on Ashimar. DL told ys about the insults she suffered from him, and we all wished her good luck with the attack.

Against this kind of stupidity the wise, what's the expression, fight in vain or something ?!

I was just contemplating writing to Verith to ask her what insults I allegedly made to Darklady then as what you have all read/seen is all there ever was. As my way of writing is long and strenuous (no diubt to Americans it is), may I ask any of the Morkins in contact with Verith to -if the occasion comes up- to just point out that it is interesting, very interesting that the same story (by me) is not seen as more than a storm in a glass or minor insulting at the most by all of you which also includes one woman (Jenny). So, would that then not either point to a completely exaggerated or false story having been given to Verith and co OR completely differing general standards and concepts of what is justifiable criticism or insults ?

I can see the downside in this request that she will say, "yeah, but we never hear that from himself" or something like that, but it's not that I don't want to contact her over this but it may be better if the point is driven home tyo them that likewise Morkin as a whole also knew exactly of what had happened/transpired, so unless the 2 stories are grossly different on their side, what are their standards then ?

I'll just go and pretend I haven't read these remarks of her as it makes me get angry again.

[Arminius]

American Revisionists at Work

by U. Targ reporting from Ocean 15.

The Hawks are rewriting history, after the crushing defeat of their leader, P. Flares. As one young hawk woman, lovely butterfly, writes on her page, alot has been going on in our alliance lately. our admin, has been attacked by Morkin only because lies were told about him by darklady and attacks were done without getting facts straight. hopefully morkin sees the error of their ways and helps to take back the damage they have caused.

So the blame is shifted in typical revisionist fashion from the real perpetrator and convicted liar, Mr Flare, to an already exiled scapegoat, Ms D. Lady, also known as L. Hawke. And members of the veritable Morkin alliance, fighting for truth and justice, are accused of diverging from the path of righteousness.

The question which many analysts are currently debating is, how could that ever happen? Will those people from Massachusetts never learn? Do they not realise that they themselves could be at fault, with their inconsiderate behaviour and blind trust in the lies of Mr Flare?

Perhaps the next few days, with the imminent publication of the report by independent investigator M. Erlin, will bring Light and Truth into this Dark and Murky matter.

[Arminius]

Marc, I have mentioned the possibility to Verith that DL just lied to them; she conceded that all they had was her word, but that they trusted her at that stage. I can't remember if PF claimed to have seen them.

"All I know is that she told us that he insulted her, and at that time we had no reason to doubt her word. "

"As far as Sheldon's lies, I'm not happy about it, but men do stupid things when they think a woman needs to be protected or thinks she is being wrongly treated. Which was the case back then. "

"As far as him not, talking to anyone about the situation and helping to get facts straight he doesn't have the time for that. "

Maybe it's time he gets his priorities right...

[Arminius]

Lovely butterfly has seen the error of her way, and amended her text:

"cant we all just get along?"

i dont know anything anymore...

[Arminius]

Verith's page:

Lots of destruction has been caused, the smell of war is in the air.
The cause is DarkLady and the chaos she brings.
What is the truth? I'm determined to find out.

They're changing pages by the minute...

[Natmus]

I asked them to change their texts, as I didn't really think they were the "straight facts".

[Natmus]

I think this whole situation with hawk will spin out of control. They are activating all their contacts, and using every possible excuse, from insults to attacks, of getting their big friends interested. I have managed to talk TheEarl, end even a guy from Wraith, jason, from interfering, but this is getting to my nerves.

I am not kidding about this break I need. Things are getting ugly.

Should we start planning for an eventual war with hawk. Either a limited, where we only respond to attacks, and counterattack those that attack us, or even worse, a full scale war?

[soiram]

Will that alleviate things, or just worsen them?

[SkulkrinBait]

Should we mobilise our allies and contacts?

Perhaps it would be good to put up another HTML page like you did before Natmus, with the facts on them to first of all try to convince Hawks and their potential allies that we have acted properly and with good reason and secondly to try to persuade others to come in on the side of truth if a war does develop.

[soiram]

Mads, why is this getting so personal vs NAtmus from their part? I never understood this....