[DRAFT] Message to Hawk, TheOrg and AW

[Natmus]

I have drafted a message to the leaders of PF's groups, giving a brief tale of what we are doing, and why, and a warning for them to stay out of it. It needs to me cut down a bit to fit inside a singe IK message, and I need a bit of help with that.

My intent is to send this message to admins, diplomats and admirals of the alliances, so we can get in before most of them get ready for a counterattack. Of course, if anyone attack us, I think we should declare a full alliance war and wipe them off the map.

To the admins, diplomats and admirals of the hawk, TheOrg and AW alliances:

Greetings. By now you may or may not have heard that members of the Morkin alliance are attacking PhoenixFlare. Other members of Morkin are conducting coordinated attacks against the isles of DarkLady, with the goal of levelling or colonising them.

The same goes for our attack on PhoenixFlare: Destruction of his main isle, and destruction or colonisation of his colony Sanctuary. No attacks against any other members of your alliances are planned, and we hope that your members will stand aside and let the attacks happen without interference.

The reasons are, of course, as with the attacks on DarkLady, a consequense of earlier events, things that mainly happened before PhoenixFlare joined hawk. Mainly, his lies leading up to his acceptance into Morkin, the lies he told while a member, his support of DarkLady turning on Morkin and attacking one member, and since his continued association with DarkLady and her multiple existenses, leaves us with a desire to settle old scores. He may claim that he knew nothing about DarkLady's multies, but we don't believe it. The lies he told in support of her back in the days he was a member in Morkin clearly show he knew that DarkLady had stolen the identity of his own wife when he pretended to be DarkLady's ex-husband and father of her daughter, and called DL Carol.

We believe that their connection has continued throughout the period of him leading hawk, even after she finally was discovered to be a multi (Morkin had known about it for a long time, but her Army of Boyfriends just couldn't believe it), and still continues, whatever else he may be telling to his wife and everybody else. That is why we attack.

We hope members of your organisations will remain away from the fight, neither supporting PhoenixFlare with men or resources, or take action against members of Morkin. These kinds of actions can escalate this into a full alliance war, and we in Morkin don't wish to have to wage war on your groups. Apart from PhoenixFlare we judge you to be a group of nice and peacefull people, and we would rather not fight against you.

Comments? Help trimming it down? Shouldn't send anything at all?

[soiram]

It's nice and to the point. Try sending it to me to see if it fits, otherwise we can perform some plastic surgery.

[Natmus]

I managed to get this into one message, the max length is 1500 characters, including spaces.

To the admins, diplomats and admirals of hawk, TheOrg and AW:

Greetings. By now you may have heard that members of the Morkin alliance are attacking PhoenixFlare (PF). Other members of Morkin are conducting coordinated attacks against the isles of DarkLady (DL), with the goal of levelling or colonising them.

The same goes for our attack on PF: Destruction of his main isle, and destruction or colonisation of his colony. No attacks against any other members of your alliances are planned, and we hope that your members will stand aside and let the attacks happen without interference.

The reasons are, of course, as with the attacks on DL, a consequence of earlier events, things that happened before PF joined hawk. Mainly, his lies leading up to his inclusion into Morkin, the lies he told while a member, his support of DL turning on Morkin and attacking one member, and since his continued association with DL and her multiple existences, leaves us with a desire to settle old scores. He may claim that he knew nothing about DL's multis, but we don't believe it. The lies he told in support of her when he was a member in Morkin clearly shows he knew that DL had stolen the identity of his own wife when he pretended to be DL's ex-husband and father of her daughter, and called DL Carol.

We believe that their connection has continued throughout the period of him leading hawk, and still continues, whatever else he may be telling to his wife and everybody else. That is why we attack.

[soiram]

Oliver has put in the other thread that PF was the one who cancelled our peace treaty. This can also be used in our message. I am changing it a bit to make room if you agree:

Greetings. By now you may have heard that members of the Morkin alliance are attacking PhoenixFlare and DarkLady, with the goal of levelling or colonising their islands. No attacks against any other members of your alliances are planned, and we hope that your members will stand aside and let the attacks happen without interference.

The reasons are, of course, as with the attacks on DarkLady... [add the bit about peace treaty cancellation].

I think we don't need to explain much more than the above (ie that the attacks are coordinated etc) and that we don't need to explicitly mention the island names or to distinguish between DL and PF attacks.

[Starshatter]

soiram said:

Oliver has put in the other thread that PF was the one who cancelled our peace treaty. This can also be used in our message. I am changing it a bit to make room if you agree:

Greetings. By now you may have heard that members of the Morkin alliance are attacking PhoenixFlare and DarkLady, with the goal of levelling or colonising their islands. No attacks against any other members of your alliances are planned, and we hope that your members will stand aside and let the attacks happen without interference.

The reasons are, of course, as with the attacks on DarkLady... [add the bit about peace treaty cancellation].

I think we don't need to explain much more than the above (ie that the attacks are coordinated etc) and that we don't need to explicitly mention the island names or to distinguish between DL and PF attacks.

Agreed - in fact I think we should make a point of not suggesting co ordination, just took a vote and decided to do it!

[maroc]

Perhaps we could hold out the olive branch by offering a peace treaty once the miscreants have been eliminated??

[Arminius]

Sounds good. Though, imagine he would send us such a message and then attack you. I for one would immediately retaliate, and I'm sure so would all of us. So it really depends how tightly the group hangs together. It seems they have admitted other people as members, so their loyalty might be less high.

Should we also send similar messages to their bigwig allies?

[soiram]

I am not so sure about notifying allies. Maybe only the ones they have a pact with. Alternatively we could post a summary of the reasoning on our alliance page.

[ashimar]

There is of course the issue of his son being present in Hawk, how would he feel/react to it ? Not our corcern, but a factor to keep in mind.

I'm not good in making short messages so I'll stay out of that, except that I don't think we should contact their allies, yet.

However, a manifesto on our alliance page might be a good idea (just save the old text so we can put it back up again after a while, if we're still in business or want to be in business by then of course).

[soiram]

BTW, WHEN are we sending this message to Diplomats and admins?

[Arminius]

soiram said:

BTW, WHEN are we sending this message to Diplomats and admins?

At the time when our ships hit the coast? Preferably not earlier, as someone might wake her up...

[Natmus]

soiram said:

BTW, WHEN are we sending this message to Diplomats and admins?

Just after 1400 IK time, of course. Still early morning over there, and whatever else, it will cause confusion, I hope.

[SkulkrinBait]

I'd suggest it should be sent before any of them realise the full extent of our attacks but not so early so as to give much chance of doing anything to defend themselves or their allies.

Tricky!

[ashimar]

Can't we do the Japanese trick ?

Have it typed over first by a blind typer with one finger !?
;D