Dead King's Lords

[Ringthane]

Still, my hypothetical Corleth would only have to lie in waiting amidst the ghost regiments, til he could finally get them all...

[Ringthane]

Ringthane said:

Still, my hypothetical Corleth would only have to lie in waiting amidst the ghost regiments, til he could finally get them all...

...unless they could have a sort of radar, with a 5sq radius, making them attack on sight IF king is dead and IF they are still courageous...?

[Natmus]

TheCreator said:

...How does that sound?

Fine by me. Also, I would like all the garrisons in strongholds without lord presence to become neutral. Sometimes a citadel becomes much too costly to take by assault, even after the death of it's king. annoying when trying to rebuild your forces after a victory.

[celebaglar]

TheCreator said:

Not massively complex. Here's how I see it then (feel free to correct me if I got it wrong):

1. King dies
2. Followers all have their courage levels decremented by 1 level
3. A counter is set to each lord's courage level
4. Each subsequent day, the counter decrements by 1
5. If a lord's counter = 0, he becomes non-aligned

This way we simulate 2 things - the despair felt by lords at losing their king, and the braver lords losing heart later than the cowards.

How does that sound?

Extend that to garissons and it sounds peachy.

[Matija]

Ringthane said:

Still, my hypothetical Corleth would only have to lie in waiting amidst the ghost regiments, til he could finally get them all...

But he probably wouldn't be alone, and he would risk discovery. In fact, I forsee serious fights around dead king's lords, even before they would become available. The delay would just give a chance to all the players to come to the site. And don't forget, when a lord is finally recruited, he would be very scared or even terrified and not much of a fighter.

Maybe he and his troops could also be made tired when they become recruitable?

[sparrowhawk]

Celebaglar said:

Extend that to garissons and it sounds peachy.

This already caters for them since garrisons are actually lord records that have special characteristics such as nil movement and an ownership id field.

But it wasn't clear in my post.

[celebaglar]

Matija said:

Maybe he and his troops could also be made tired when they become recruitable?

Scared, yes, but tired? Why? They've been sitting in the same place for ages and while being scared would make them mentally exhausted, physically they should be OK. I think the "totally scared" factor caters for the mental exhaustion anyway.

Perhaps being utterly scared might have a reducing factor on an army's mobility, because it makes them despondent.

Brave Sir Robin ran away...

[celebaglar]

TheCreator said:

This already caters for them since garrisons are actually lord records that have special characteristics such as nil movement and an ownership id field.

But it wasn't clear in my post.

In that case it certainly sounds good to me. But then anything's better than just having armies loyal to dead lords just sitting there forever.

Perhaps if you were to introduce any superficial AI at any point, you could make them make a beeline for the nearest stronghold owned by the dead lord, losing x% of troops (deserters) for each day they spend in the open.

[sparrowhawk]

Celebaglar said:

In that case it certainly sounds good to me. But then anything's better than just having armies loyal to dead lords just sitting there forever.

Perhaps if you were to introduce any superficial AI at any point, you could make them make a beeline for the nearest stronghold owned by the dead lord, losing x% of troops (deserters) for each day they spend in the open.

How would we deal with lords whose strongholds were all captured?

[Ringthane]

Dissolve?

[Freiegeister]

TheCreator said:

How would we deal with lords whose strongholds were all captured?

Send the Lord back to his starting position.
I like the idea of them arriving home and getting very pissed with any foreign garrison/Lord's.

[celebaglar]

TheCreator said:

How would we deal with lords whose strongholds were all captured?

Freiegeister's idea is appealing, or else double the despondency/desertion rates. (In effect, the lord would be available for recruitment sooner, but he won't be coming with much of an army...)