Orc War

[ashimar]

[Corleth] has a new inhouse style representing the revolutionary sentiments.

It should not be lost on anyone I hope that I very much empathize with this fellow's appreciation of words !

I'll have a sip of (Cuban) rum now, amigos and amigas in particular...

;D

[Sol]

I resent not being a revolutionary.

lol

Gawd damn you ashimar, you and your cool ideas.

[inyati]

natmus said:

Oogahk reports that he has recieved an attack from somebody in Morkin, and replied in kind.

To be honest, I'm beginning to think that the remaining Orcs didn't know about the attacks, and they are innocent. We could choose to be merciful and call off further action against everybody than 0_o and MD. I know we all are worked up and ready to go, but I'm beginning to believe the Orcs knew very little about what MD and 0_o was up to.

Believing is one thing. Knowing is another. I beleive in God, but dont know if he exists...

I'll only know (for sure) if the Orc leaders directly state it back to us. If they dialogue with us and show some humility when dealing with Morkin. I've yet to read a private message (not an IK forum one) from them explaining the situation, or the unfortunat events that lead to Orc members suiciding on us. I've yet to hear from them some sort of explanaition, an excuse or whatever, on these latest events.

No we have iniciated an action that needs to be finalised. We cannot just stop in mid air. Until Orc talk to us directly, we carry on to the next sage of attacks.

Another more readable message will be sent to all Orc members, explaining that we regard the whole responsible for the parts, but will stop or look away on those that dont wish to take part. Nevertheless, until we receive a resonable message from them, their leaders will pay the price for these suicides et al. as well as anyother Orc that iniciates attacks.

NO BACKING DOWN NOW!

[eproxy]

but will stop or look away on those that dont wish to take part.

So all the rest have to do is survive our spies without attacking back? Then we'll be able to finish off 0_o in our own time and the rest will survive. Being honest I don't think they knew anything about the suiciders either but how they did handle it when they found out wasn't good (ie. they wouldn't give back the isles).

[Gornall]

inyati said:

natmus said:

Oogahk reports that he has recieved an attack from somebody in Morkin, and replied in kind.

To be honest, I'm beginning to think that the remaining Orcs didn't know about the attacks, and they are innocent. We could choose to be merciful and call off further action against everybody than 0_o and MD. I know we all are worked up and ready to go, but I'm beginning to believe the Orcs knew very little about what MD and 0_o was up to.

Believing is one thing. Knowing is another. I beleive in God, but dont know if he exists...

I'll only know (for sure) if the Orc leaders directly state it back to us. If they dialogue with us and show some humility when dealing with Morkin. I've yet to read a private message (not an IK forum one) from them explaining the situation, or the unfortunat events that lead to Orc members suiciding on us. I've yet to hear from them some sort of explanaition, an excuse or whatever, on these latest events.

No we have iniciated an action that needs to be finalised. We cannot just stop in mid air. Until Orc talk to us directly, we carry on to the next sage of attacks.

Another more readable message will be sent to all Orc members, explaining that we regard the whole responsible for the parts, but will stop or look away on those that dont wish to take part. Nevertheless, until we receive a resonable message from them, their leaders will pay the price for these suicides et al. as well as anyother Orc that iniciates attacks.

NO BACKING DOWN NOW!

Does that mean I can take troubles isle now?

He's an admin aint he

[Natmus]

eproxy said:

but will stop or look away on those that dont wish to take part.

So all the rest have to do is survive our spies without attacking back? Then we'll be able to finish off 0_o in our own time and the rest will survive. Being honest I don't think they knew anything about the suiciders either but how they did handle it when they found out wasn't good (ie. they wouldn't give back the isles).

Yes, that's pretty much it. The two most active of their admins skedaddled to DIGG fast enough (Otak and Rok), leaving poor Oogahk to figure out and clean the mess they had made:

Oogahk
1 day ago
After some time
of going back through the forums, spending close to 2 hrs reading through all the messages, here's what I can see happened. (Granted, this is all from the mouths of Orc)

MD sends out a message saying he's done, he's had fun, blah blah blah. That's that. No message of suicides.

Someone stated that we should make it clear that his attacks were not reflective of the Orc. Guess that one sorta got over looked.

Anger rose, tempers flared, war was close, but then Makari stated that peace was agreed upon. Then we get spies.

and then the latest:

Oogahk
16 hours ago
RE: RE: After some time
Hrm seems like a sticky wicket we're in now isnt it.

But, I guess the war's a for gone conclusion as I've already been attacked by someone in Morkin (even though your diplomat stated none that participated in the MD/Morkin incident would be attacked.

But no, I did not know you were attacked by a bunch of one 1islers.

Was I involved in attacks? No, but I get attacked anyways. Did I retaliate, yes I did.

I still recommend that we hold off any real attacks for the time being. Unfortunatly the most obvious targets left for DIGG, where I have to concede that we can't touch them, for now. Those remaining in ORC are the ones we shouldn't touch. Those we should skin, in my opinion, are the ones that ran to DIGG.

[Gornall]

Who was it that attacked Oog?

Just out of curiosity. He got proof he was attacked and didnt just launch?

[inyati]

We should have message all alliance's regarding fugitives. Next time its a top priority message!!!

[inyati]

So Natmus, does that mean they're talking to us? What does Gruumsh say?

[Warliter]

Looking in the database, it looks like Sol spied his isle 13:58:19 about 60 hours ago.

Dalfiatich attacked 5 hours ago, before that the only registered attacks on 1:98:4 were 35 days ago

Obviously if someone did attack him its not been put in the DB

[Clausewitz]

Isn't Gruumsh/Lyndwyr the one who is openly challenging us on the IK forums with "Bring it on!"?

[Natmus]

inyati said:

So Natmus, does that mean they're talking to us? What does Gruumsh say?

Grumpy hasn't said anything to me.

Instead of posting the entire content of the talks, what remains is that those Orcs who actively dislike us are the ones who fled to DIGG, and these are also the ones who may have had foreknowledge of the plans to suicide, perhaps even guiding the attacks towards us and Pantheon.

Those Orcs that remains in ORC are the ones I can't really point a finger in accusation at. They didn't seem to know anything about it, and so was slow to react when MD suicided.

If it still is possible, we should hold off any more attacks at the Orcs, except for the suiciders, of course. Those we really want are in DIGG now.
Also, if most ORC isles have been scouted by now, theres no reason to keep that up. I think it's clear that they know we are angry with them.

[Arminius]

Perhaps we could adopt the terrified orcses. Offer them protection in return for them putting 'I'm a little teapot' on their profiles?

[Lord_Reed]

arminius said:

Perhaps we could adopt the terrified orcses. Offer them protection in return for them putting 'I'm a little teapot' on their profiles?

Could we exchange the word 'tea' for 'toss'?

[ashimar]

I fail to see why we cannot attack those in Digg. What's the problem ?

EDIT: and no, I did not attack Oogahk either.