SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Sept 23, 2007 17:32:23 GMT
I had an idea based on idea by another Morkin and it is now progressing.
The plan is that we (Morkin) would pact with HAWK in return for them doing the following:
1. Actively recruiting new players. 2. Following our colonisation etiquette. 3. Not bullying smaller players/alliances and being jerks etc.
They would get FULL Morkin protection in return for this.
We wouldn't expect [HAWK] to fight with us in any wars as they are mainly going to be new players, but they may want to help with stoners and resources etc if not actually getting involved.
Why do this?
1. It gives us the chance to get into some action if [HAWK] does get attacked.
2. It gives us something else to do, we could help teach the new [HAWK] players how to play the game etc.
3. It could possibly lead to a very large alliance that might rival DIGG (very unlikely I know) but at the very least it would be a potentially large alliance that isn't going to attack us.
4. It helps to expand our influence.
Currently only Morkin and Corleth are pacted with [HAWK], I'd like this to extend to KoM and Luxor as well, but only if the membership is in agreement, so please comment.
If KoM rejects any more applications and you think they might fit into [HAWK] then please let them know.
We chose HAWK as the alliance to do this as we know LovelyButterly quiet well from the .co.uk server and they have a few new players anyway.
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Arminius
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Post by Arminius on Sept 23, 2007 17:44:31 GMT
Perhaps we should stress that one of the main ideas is to offer protection to new players, even if we wouldn't want them in the Morkin family of alliances.
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kae
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Post by kae on Sept 23, 2007 17:52:15 GMT
fine by me
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2kcastle
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Post by 2kcastle on Sept 23, 2007 18:19:53 GMT
I like the idea in principal but i do have a couple of reservations,
The main one is that i don't think i know anyone in hawk and have no idea what their admins or members are like, Obviously if you guys know lovely butterfly then thats a good recomendation but i'd feel a lot happier if we had someone from one of our alliances as a liason inside hawk to report back on any situations that arise as soon as they happen, and to make sure we get the whole story, Secondly i'm a bit worried about us being seen as self declared judge and jury of the whole server, I think Digg's perceived attitude that they are entitled to say whats right and wrong is a major part of why people don't like them and we risk being seen the same way. While i don't agree with people bullying new players, I don't want to fight on behalf of every player with 5 points who'd probably quit the game in a week anyway
Putting that aside if Morkin are pacted with them then as far as i'm concerned so are luxor and we stand together.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Sept 23, 2007 19:08:59 GMT
I've asked for a new subsection in here for HAWK, or just a couple of representatives from their alliance so they can keep us posted on events and we can get to know them better.
One idea I did have was for a Morkin/Luxor/KoM representative to admin HAWK on a rotating basis, but that is still under discussion.
I have asked [HAWK] to put a note on their profile telling people to approach Morkin if there are any issues that they feel are "dubious".
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RapSO
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Post by RapSO on Sept 23, 2007 19:32:42 GMT
I've had dealings with [HAWK] while I was in MX, and we didn't really treat them very nice, so I would welcome this opportunity to make up for that and help them.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Sept 23, 2007 19:40:46 GMT
I've asked for a new subsection in here for HAWK, or just a couple of representatives from their alliance so they can keep us posted on events and we can get to know them better. One idea I did have was for a Morkin/Luxor/KoM representative to admin HAWK on a rotating basis, but that is still under discussion. I have asked [HAWK] to put a note on their profile telling people to approach Morkin if there are any issues that they feel are "dubious". Best way to guide and monitor them is to have area here so no personel transports are needed.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Sept 23, 2007 20:00:38 GMT
We could just let HAWK have this subsection as their own forum, they don't have their own external forums.
If everyone is OK with that then I will let them know, otherwise we can just let 2 or 3 of them on here.
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Sol
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Post by Sol on Sept 23, 2007 20:00:58 GMT
I think this is a great idea and wouldn't mind if there was a pact with Luxor as well. We need more friends. And, maybe we can include Hawk in the Olympic Games?
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McGoogus
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Post by McGoogus on Sept 23, 2007 21:18:46 GMT
I like the idea. New friends are nice.
What about our other new friends though, like [D|D], [E||M] and [DUGG]? How many pacts are we really looking for? I'm just wondering if this pact with [HAWK] is final and the other alliances are $h!t out of luck.
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digital
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Post by digital on Sept 23, 2007 21:24:43 GMT
I have no idea who Hawk are but if they are pacted with Morkin and Corleth they are pacted with us (KoM) regardless of whether or not we show it. I've always worked along the assumption that KoM has the same pacts and treaties as the other alliances.
I think they should be allowed access to this forum as it would allow us to get to know each other much more intimately.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Sept 23, 2007 21:45:40 GMT
I like the idea. New friends are nice. What about our other new friends though, like [D|D], [E||M] and [DUGG]? How many pacts are we really looking for? I'm just wondering if this pact with [HAWK] is final and the other alliances are $h!t out of luck. Pacts are fluid, we make then and remove them when we feel it is the right thing to do. As things stand this is the last pact we will be making and we will hold it in extremely high regard as there are a lot of new players in [HAWK] who need protection. Or there will be!
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blazed
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Post by blazed on Sept 24, 2007 0:12:30 GMT
good idea skulk, exalt
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Post by Gornall on Sept 24, 2007 11:50:36 GMT
I think HAWK or in more need of our protection and good will than [D|D], [E||M] and [DUGG]. Nothing saying we can't still be close to these alliances but helping the noobies is always nice
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Sept 24, 2007 12:15:31 GMT
Nobody is against this (so far) so I am setting up a pact with them from Luxor, can a KoM admin do the same please?
Also, whoever is running the "Olympic Games", feel free to contact HAWK to see if they want to join.
LovelyButterfly has put forward two HAWK members to join these forums, I have PMd them and await their reply.
Neria_Elm and Stoertebecker are their names.
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