Warplan

[Shendemiar]

I wish it was not us again...

But if it comes down to warfare, whats our strategy?

I would estimate rather low morale & lots of Morkin friends in there thus low participation in war.

Lack of organization and trust in young alliance.

Morkin members also please read this

They seem also very strached over the whole world...

Any major amount of our isles are outnumbered only in O:4 All other parts either don't have significant amount of our isles or we have majority.

[Natmus]

Plan: Go for the ring-leaders. As much as possible leave former Angels alone, they will probably head back to Angel given the chance.

[McGoogus]

Are [Angel] the only competent ones? I don't know what sort of action [mod_axis] saw and [Valor] was [V|W] (thralls?). Their numbers might look nice, but can they really fight?

[Clausewitz]

Based on the track record from the E|S campaign...

Angel elements will fight, but they are sparse.
mod_axis elements remind me heavily of MX - much fire and brimstone talk, but buckle quickly.
VALOR elements have serious egos, but unable to execute a cohesive campaign (they left many claimed E|S islands untouched, citing inability to capture them).

Is there any way to divide the list into former alliance members? Perhaps to use to exploits the divisions?

[Shendemiar]

clausewitz said:

Is there any way to divide the list into former alliance members?

It can be done if needed.

[domhnall]

The old smash and grab!

Flatten whoever we don't like, recruit whoever we do!

[AeroS]

Bah! I have an insel-friend from Mod-Axis who is now an admin in Pantheon. He is big in my area and has just merged the johhny_kalma account. He will be well equipped to fight a war and I lost nearly 4000 LW's in our last war. Can we find some allies for the fight? I know Kampf took nearly identical losses as I did so even though we have them outnumbered in the south, our military is not what it was. I was hoping for a longer rest before engaging in war again.

[Tomthebuffalo]

I havent got a problem fighting again.
No colony ships though.

At least these chaps have some isles in ocean 51! If possible, I'd like to leave my ocean 11 isles alone for as much as I can. I'll waste them in ocean 51 I think.

Still, better to split them up! Anyone got any information in there?

Worst comes to worst, same tactic as MX.

Wheres this war talk coming from by the way? Havent seen anything on the official forum or our alliance board. Can anyone point these blind eyes towards a link?

[Shendemiar]

Mainly from CaptainCadaver thread in the KoM applications.

[Freiegeister]

I think war can be avoided if we can find a solution that enables them to back down without looking like they are backing down. Will we take their precious 2nd place if we reform the triumvate/quadrate? That would be enough to scare the rank and file...

Anyway here's their Order of Battle:

Head Admiral: svs_doc
Vice Admiral: strider

Regional Admirals:
o1,2,11,12,21,22: Danny9
o3,4,13,14: Joshuajd79
o5,6,7,15,16: Ivan-the-Terrible
023,24,25,33,34: Quacker
31,32,41,42,43,51: Magee_MC

[inyati]

If we cant resolve the issue as Freiegeister suggest's then we do as Natmus's says.
In that case we basicly know thw drill:

1:Contact very close friends or contacts in the enemy alliance to give a simple brief layout of our intentions, but more importantly to assess their loyalty to [Pantheon] - whether they'll fight or stay out (it'll help to determine targets)

2: Determine targets, which naturaly are all admins, admirals, possibly diplomats, and one or two others that we have cause to. Other [Pantheon] members will follow later as targets depending if they join their alliance in the fight or not (meaning, if we get attacked).

3: Send IGM alliance wide as propoganda with what we're going to do and to whom, and why. Should be done before our first attack wave is within enemy Tower range

4: Conclude buisiness

[inyati]

I'd also like to add that holiday season is not the best time for war. Too many people away. But that I guess goes for all alliances.

[Clausewitz]

"Holiday season". I hear alot of that from the European players. Is that a reference to summer, and school being out? I know in the States, it reduces gaming for the college-age crowd (summer jobs take up time), but overall activity of US players is not notably detracted. Could be noteworthy if Pantheon has a significant number of stateside players...

[eproxy]

Yeah it's pretty much what it say; alot of people go on holidays (family holidays are easier since schools are out). On the other hand alot of school aged players suddenly have the time to log on during the day, I think that overall it balances out.

As for whether it actually will come to war we still don't know.

[Gornall]

Ive got a few coloships on the way but still bit weak from me recent expansion.

Lost alot of my catapults and quite a few warships.

Be nice to take the Ivan-the-terribles isle in o7 if we do goto war though