Null
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Post by Null on Aug 22, 2007 1:45:58 GMT
While I am not posting this to get a ribbon myself, I thought it may perhaps apply to others...
being an o42 player, I'm still relatively new in terms of islands and especially army count. So while I could not do much in terms of fighting, when I was asked to suicide against E|S targets, I sent all I had. So while a few hundred warships may get lost in the big picture, in terms of percentage of offensive/defensive power, does the player suiciding 100 of their 120LWS fleet equal the same as the player suiciding 1000 of their 1200 LWS fleet?
I'm not saying it does, and not sure it deserves a ribbon either way...just saying, everything is relative to each player, not just total numbers compared to everyone else.
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mmupatton
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Post by mmupatton on Aug 22, 2007 10:22:03 GMT
Sol definitely deserves a ribbon for those losses! And Natmus, for killing 18 colonyships (great tactic, after you told us I began to target islands with colonyships mostly, I hadn't thought about it before). Did I really take 16 islands? Well, I guess that's right, after all this time, I finally around to renaming them to my current naming scheme I am looking forward to my kill ribbon (Nottap --> 42.327) ;D
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inyati
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Post by inyati on Aug 22, 2007 16:00:08 GMT
hafbaked, though I agree with you, I have no way of determining peoples ratios in the campaign rather than the numbers involved which are now easier to get through the database. Unfortunatly, as you say, big players will get most of the big awards. But we're open to ideas on perfecting the system of course. Some have asked for a mayhem ribbon, but that hasnt been made of or thought of either. I think it would also be based on nominations, possibly...
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Freiegeister
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Post by Freiegeister on Aug 23, 2007 2:11:09 GMT
War Timescale: ~7th June - ~30th July (Database analise simplifed to 64 days ago - 8 days ago) FINAL RESULT FOR MOST KILLS RIBBON:1 Nottap --> 42.327 2 tom_the_bu --> 31.817 3 Lord_Reed --> 29.689 4 kampf --> 28.539 5 Ringthane --> 28.319 6 Natmus --> 28.251 7 Ashimar --> 28.073 8 AeroS --> 28.012 9 eproxy --> 22.374 10 Raistlin --> 21.872 10 Freiegeist --> 21.827
Did I get it right? Ok, I'm a bit late on this, but you really needed a multiplier for the relative defense of the units being counted otherwise someone who killed 5000 stonies is ranked the same as someone who killed 5000 LWs. Multiplying LWs x 10, SFs x 3, Cats by 25, Colos x 5 here's the weighted kills for the top 20... Nottap 126897 Natmus 93882 Freiegeist 88624 Raistlin 85883 kampf 83902 Lord_Reed 80199 tom_the_bu 74498 AeroS 73841 Ringthane 73591 eproxy 70099 Ashimar 70086 Perun 68996 Guinthefey 50801 Shendemiar 48581 Matija 34280 Solstice 16995 blazed 14487 Cesium 12330 2kcastle 8054 Arminius 6232 Note: This doesn't count archers or any results not in the earlier post that missed the cut. Also colo kills are really worth far more than the equivalent of 5 stonies. Maybe a special colo killer ribbon?
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Post by AeroS on Aug 23, 2007 3:12:11 GMT
I think kampf should get the "most productive within 10 days of deleting your own account" ribbon. He put up some good numbers. Too bad he couldn't keep the account.
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Post by eproxy on Aug 23, 2007 12:06:59 GMT
Huh? What do you mean? Where did kampf go? I feel like I'm missing out on something big and important here -.-
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inyati
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Post by inyati on Aug 23, 2007 15:11:40 GMT
Freiegeister you came in just in time and made a very good point (even though the top 10 remain the same players but in a diferent order). Nevertheless I think we'll go with your final formula - Thanks!
In the beginning I was just planning on giving these special awards to the top 3 players, but Operation Sunrise was quite a Massive war, envolving 3 enemy alliances. So I've posted the top 10, that will receive the special awards; or shall we cut it down? More I think is not the answer.
eproxy, see kampf's personal tread for info.
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Freiegeister
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Post by Freiegeister on Aug 24, 2007 12:37:17 GMT
Freiegeister you came in just in time and made a very good point (even though the top 10 remain the same players but in a diferent order). Nevertheless I think we'll go with your final formula - Thanks! In the beginning I was just planning on giving these special awards to the top 3 players, but Operation Sunrise was quite a Massive war, envolving 3 enemy alliances. So I've posted the top 10, that will receive the special awards; or shall we cut it down? More I think is not the answer. eproxy, see kampf's personal tread for info. Maybe include Perun as he's not far behind Eproxy and Marc. 1000 stonies would get him up and his stonie kills aren't listed. One last thing, do I get a purple heart for having a 1k fleet kampf'd?
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Post by domhnall on Aug 24, 2007 14:44:28 GMT
I think there should be a ribbons for getting max bang for minimum buck. Dalfia for instance, caused a good deal of havoc with his couple of isles. I'd like a support ribbon. I did alot of spying on top of the 90 cats I sent. I also increased my isle count 200% (to 3 isle ) and lost nearly a third of them soon after...* Against my claim, I did blag about 6k-8k stonies in a vain attempt to hold my main but I still intend to pay most of those back. Eventually. * Percentage wise I'm one of the players of the war!
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 24, 2007 17:40:25 GMT
While I am not posting this to get a ribbon myself, I thought it may perhaps apply to others... being an o42 player, I'm still relatively new in terms of islands and especially army count. So while I could not do much in terms of fighting, when I was asked to suicide against E|S targets, I sent all I had. So while a few hundred warships may get lost in the big picture, in terms of percentage of offensive/defensive power, does the player suiciding 100 of their 120LWS fleet equal the same as the player suiciding 1000 of their 1200 LWS fleet? I'm not saying it does, and not sure it deserves a ribbon either way...just saying, everything is relative to each player, not just total numbers compared to everyone else. Yes this is true. Some people were asked to perform quite hard tasks. Its perfectly ok to post about your own achievements and sacrifices if no-one else does.
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inyati
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Post by inyati on Aug 25, 2007 18:33:09 GMT
Greatest Losses in Defence Award Calculations
Attacker Spear losses by Defender(x 3) 18:33 Thu 07.06.2007 - 18:35 Mon 30.07.2007 # Item Amount 2 Sol 38,847 5 Arminius 24,440 6 Solstice 21,825 8 Freiegeist 18,541 14 The_Lith 9,828 15 tom_the_bu 9,201 21 Nemesis 6,980 31 Guinthefey 4,761 33 Domhnall 4,486 35 BigBlue 4,074
Attacker Stoner losses by Defender 18:38 Thu 07.06.2007 - 18:40 Mon 30.07.2007 # Item Amount 1 tom_the_bu 2,195 5 Sir_Cedric 1,135 20 The_Lith 109 21 Arminius 58 22 Nottap 57 40 Sol 3 47 Nemesis 1 --->rest listed with 0
Attacker LWS losses by Defender (x10) 18:42 Thu 07.06.2007 - 18:44 Mon 30.07.2007 # Item Amount 2 Sol 8,027 5 Arminius 5,280 7 Solstice 4,467 9 Freiegeist 3,721 14 tom_the_bu 2,285 15 The_Lith 2,145 24 Nemesis 1,383 33 Guinthefey 977 35 Domhnall 897 38 BigBlue 869
Attacker CAT losses by Defender (x 25) 18:45 Thu 07.06.2007 - 18:46 Mon 30.07.2007 # Item Amount 15 Solstice 78 18 Freiegeist 71 20 Sol 64 21 Nemesis 64 23 Arminius 62 24 tom_the_bu 62 28 blazed 52 34 BigBlue 42 39 Domhnall 32 44 Guinthefey 20
Attacker Coloship losses by Defender (x 125) 18:47 Thu 07.06.2007 - 18:49 Mon 30.07.2007 # Item Amount 4 Freiegeist 4 6 Solstice 3 8 Arminius 3 13 Ringthane 2 16 Sol 2 17 Domhnall 1 23 Nottap 1 25 Cesium 1 26 tom_the_bu 1 27 BigBlue 1
Greatest Losses in Defence Award-Final outcome (top 10 get award)
1 Sol--->198.664 2 Arminius--->128.103 3 Solstice--->112.470 4 Freiegeist--->95.108 5 tom_the_bu--->54.198 6 The_Lith--->51.043 7 Nemesis--->36.996 8 Guinthefey--->24.553 9 Domhnall--->23.353 10 BigBlue--->22.087 ----------------------------------- 11 blazed--->1.300 12 Sir_Cedric--->1.135 13 Ringthane--->250 14 Nottap--->182 15 Cesium--->125
EDIT: hmmm, maybe should include buildings bombarded/lost as well....
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inyati
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Post by inyati on Aug 25, 2007 18:45:35 GMT
Special Awards to:
Diplomatic Award-For biggest diplomatic effort Ashimar, Arminius
Organization Award-For organization/coordination efforts eproxy, Warliter, Shendemiar, inyati, Skulkrinbait
Support Award-Most stuff given away Kae, Aeros, Domhnall, McGoogus
Colony Takeover Award-Most colonies taken from enemy Harlequin, Nemesis, Shendemiar, Nottap, Ashimar, tom_the_buffalo_soldier, Arminius, Freiegeister, Guinthefey, eproxy
Bombardment Award-Enemy isles flattened Nottap, Ashimar, Natmus, Tigon, Solstice, eproxy, Freiegeister, Shendemiar, Matija, blazed
Kill Award-Most enemy units killed Nottap, Natmus, Freiegeister, Raistlin, kampf, Lord_Reed, tom_the_buffalo_soldier, AeroS, Ringthane, eproxy
Defence Award-Most units lost in defence Sol, Arminius, Solstice, Freiegeister, tom_the_buffalo_soldier,6 The_Lith, Nemesis, Guinthefey, Domhnall, BigBlue
Suicide(Sacrifice) Award*-Awarded to and highest sacrifice and dedication Dalfiatach, hafbaked, Domhnall
*could use a better term
This is the final list for the special awards. Please speakup if you think your name or someone's name should be added. I will probbly have to add the building losses for the Defence award. There will also be 2 or 3 High awards given to people who's names appear in more than 2 places - but I'll explain that better later on. For now, please check these names above for final approval. On Monday this list is closed!!
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Post by domhnall on Aug 25, 2007 22:20:24 GMT
I think the last one should be called "The Berserker Award".
I also don't think I deserve it or the defense award- I wasn't as barnstorming as Dalf, and despite my last post I didn't suffer unduly. I did pretty well out of it really.
Otherwise , it looks good to me. Congrats all.
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Post by eproxy on Aug 27, 2007 11:26:15 GMT
Or perhaps something along the lines of The Contribution Award? I mean we all contributed but their dedication led to higher losses than the rest of us (mainly on account of having fleets 'kampfed).
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inyati
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Post by inyati on Aug 28, 2007 17:11:37 GMT
I hope you agree with the latest revised Campaign ribbon structure, because: 1- Some would get more than 3 symbols on the ribbon (just wont fit) 2- I've got a bloody headache from putting it together
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