SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 5, 2007 9:55:43 GMT
I'm going to document the application process here, so we all know how it works. eproxy is in charge of looking after new applications, but if he's not around anyone can handle it, the key is communication of course.
1. Application received from applicant. The first person to notice the application should start a thread in here as [pending] and also on the FoM forum. We can then make sure it is being dealt with in a timely manner and if not someone can take ownership of it.
2. Message sent to applicant (by eproxy ideally) with questionairre for them to complete. Advise them that FoM is democratic and they will be accepted if the members agree and declined if not. Also advise them that they will find out if they have been accepted or not within 24 hours of them returning the questionairre.
3. Once the questionairre is returned, this is posted on the forum and everyone can have their say. Assuming there are no negative comments within 24 hours, the application is accepted, as long as there are also enough positive comments.
4. The applicant is then advised if they are accepted or not and told to apply formally through the game mechanism if they didn't already do so.
5. Advise the succesful applicants to register on this forum and post a message introducing themselves.
I think that's all, but let me know if I missed anything or you have better ideas.
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Jan 5, 2007 14:53:19 GMT
For reference this is the questionnaire mail to be sent;
---------------------------------- All applicants are asked to fill out this questionnaire. Your reply will be posted on the Morkin forum and members will give their opinions on your application.
1. Why do you want to join us? 2. If applicable why do you want to leave your current alliance? 3. What is your IK history; List of Wars, Friends and Enemies. 4. How would you describe yourself as a player, What are your traits, both in good and bad? 5. How much experience do you have of playing Inselkampf? 6. How would you briefly describe yourself as a person: Age, Gender, Native Language, Hobbies, Education, Lifesituation and so on. 7. Describe your current technical situation in the game. IE. isles, fleets, garrisons and which ocean you are in. 8. What were your best and worst moments in the world of Inselkampf? 9. What is you opinion of multis and scripters? 10. Regarding pacts and peace treaties, what do you understand by those terms? 11. Are you aware that Morkin, and therefore FoM, are rather peacefull alliances not actively seeking domination or war. 12. Are you currently in any wars/squabbles with other players? What combat have you been involved in on this server? 13. Finally (thank god I hear you cry) please note anything which you feel might support your application to FoM.
Please bear in mind FoM is a fairly peaceful alliance. We usually get back to applicants within 24 hours. ----------------------------------
Discuss on the other thread if needs be; this can be updated when we have a new questionnaire.
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Arminius
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Post by Arminius on Jan 6, 2007 14:07:09 GMT
At this rate you'll have 500 members in no time at all...
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Jan 6, 2007 17:13:01 GMT
I think it's a consequence of the fall of Elite. Remember how much I talked about maintaining the balance? Well, With Elite gone it falls on Morkin and associates to form a counterweight to -S- and GC. That will take many that don't like in particular -S- our way.
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2kcastle
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Post by 2kcastle on Jan 6, 2007 17:20:04 GMT
I'm not sure thats a good thing ! especially as i read somewhere that a lot of elite members left when they thought they could be targetted next. I'm not saying thats true of any of the ones who've applied to us, i know elite did have some very good people in it and i think that most of the ones who've applied so far come into that category but i'd rather be in an alliance of 20 people who i trust and i know will work and fight together than an alliance of 50, half of which will join another alliance if we get into a fight.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 6, 2007 17:22:26 GMT
Maybe it's time to put a loyalty clause into place and draw up a simple agreement that new FoM members must adhere to?
For example, by joining FoM I agree to be a loyal member to them and acknowledge the fact that if I leave without asking permission and receiving it that I will be hunted down like a dog.
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Jan 6, 2007 17:32:46 GMT
The problem with loyalty is that people might show every sign of having it but then leave/back out at the last minute. I know a player who stayed in my alliance for several months and whom I would have considered loyal yet left when it looked as though we might be going to war against Wriath. I've seen other players grow from just 8 to 200 isles under the protection of my co-admins and myself only to leave at the first chance for a bigger alliance (bearing in mind we were 3rd at the time).
It's always been my opinion that this is one the of the major reasons Morkin are (or were on IKUK) so powerful; you know that if war ensues you will keep most of members to be a part of it. Look at the recent happenings of IKUK, war was coming so people left and formed Ver. War departed for a bit on his faithful steed but returned and now look at Wraith! Ready to come back at a moments notice but nevertheless still spread out across the DP to stop a war. People are simply either too afraid or too attatched to their fleets to lose them. [/rant]
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Natmus
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Post by Natmus on Jan 6, 2007 22:44:49 GMT
I agree that utter loyalty was one of the principal points about Morkin on the .uk server, and it became a matter of pride for us. When we were attacked, everybody went along to fight.
Well, ultimatly fighting is the point of this game. Sure, it's fun spending hours each day building an account with 100's of isles with 1000's of ships and soldiers on each isle, watching the little numbers on the screen grow month by month.... but what's the point if you never use those fine little numbers for something?
I think that I speak for all the original Morkins that we mean our pact with FoM seriously. We would fight for you, each and every one of us, if the situation demanded it. Not to gain isles or for profit otherwise, but for .... well, you know we are a bunch of self-righteous bastards: We fight because it's the right thing to do.
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Arminius
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Post by Arminius on Jan 6, 2007 22:49:13 GMT
you know that if war ensues you will keep most of members to be a part of it. Not most. All.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 6, 2007 23:25:38 GMT
If it's a full scale war yes, everyone must fight. Anyone in FoM who isn't deemed to be pulling their weight won't be very well respected. There are mitigating circumstances of course, but they have to be good!
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Post by Tomthebuffalo on Jan 7, 2007 1:29:20 GMT
I think that is one of the toughest things to deal with on .co.uk. Even if it did come to war over there, I have a feeling a few members would simply stay out of it all together, or jump ship.
Of course this is one of the problems having an open ended membership, and its far from the closed one we had at the very beginning, but over time, I think you can convince people.
Of course, if you sit someones account, they cant stop you using the fleet. ;D
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 8, 2007 11:14:48 GMT
Sizewise FoM is big enough. Of course there can be more room, but not too much. Maybe we should tighten the filter from now on?
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 8, 2007 11:27:46 GMT
If we organise it right we can go beyond 30 members, there's no problem at the moment as it's so quiet. However, more than 30 might get unwieldy in times of war.
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Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 8, 2007 17:33:22 GMT
We could start to post additional info of all applicants. Score, No. of isles, feel of the Profile, and stuff like that.
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Post by bishop on Jan 8, 2007 18:41:27 GMT
I think it might actually take a war to discover which members are truly loyal. It doesn't take much effort to stay faithful to an alliance that only ever keeps you out of trouble.
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