Guide to Raiding

[Shendemiar]

skulkrinbait said:

How do you they're inactive though?

I dont give a Merda!...

If theyre idle for weeks i can raid them...

But can i raid empty colony with 1 stonetrhower?

[soiram]

Use the in-game calculator to see your odds. Even an undefended island has a base defense score of 50.
Beware, there have been cases amongst us that an attack has failed even with 99,6 chance.

[Shendemiar]

soiram said:

Use the in-game calculator to see your odds. Even an undefended island has a base defense score of 50.
Beware, there have been cases amongst us that an attack has failed even with 99,6 chance.

Heh how noob i am. I find this maybe the best hint i have had ;D thanks!

[soiram]

Heh heh, no problem, been there too!

[Freiegeister]

Espionage report
from 18.08.2005 02:41
Espionage successful!
Offence Units Elenil (1:78:14)
Total Losses
Small Warship 1 0
Defence Units Balamory (1:78:25)
Total Losses
Small Warship 5 0
Small Merchant Ship 300 0
Stone Thrower 100 0
Buildings
Main House Level 20
Gold Mine Level 20
Stone Quarry Level 20
Lumber Mill Level 20
Laboratory Level 20
Barracks Level 2
Harbour Level 19
Storehouse Level 20
Stone Wall Level 20
Watch-Tower Level 20
Research
Shield Level 1
Bow Level 9
Sail Level 10
Resources
Gold 38337
Stone 38337
Lumber 38337

Maybe I should ask nicely, it's not like he couldn't transport it easily.

[SkulkrinBait]

Balamory eh? I bet Archie the Inventorand Josie Jump wouldn't be too pleased if you stole
their stuff! Most of you wont know what the heck I am on about

[Shendemiar]

My first raid was not a big success. But that was kind of expected, i wanted to do it anyway before going to sleep last night:

Attack report
from 18.08.2005 00:40
Offence Units Adhrania (1:58:17)
Total Losses
Small Warship 2 1
Small Merchant Ship 2 1
Stone Thrower 4 1
Defence Units Undercity (1:58:5)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 200
Stone 0
Lumber 0
Delete

[Raven]

Try attacking islands without rulers first and only 1 point

you will get nearly 100% success rate

and can pillage up to 600 units

and use

3 small warships
3 small merchants
3 stone throwers
and 3 Spear fighters

and you won't sustain casualties.

PS I sent the 2 PM's to You-Admin on the first day of registering.

because I couldn't see anything on the forum and then to thank you for adding me

[ashimar]

How do you find out they are inactive ?
Could be they're on holidays...

Do you go for the ones without an alliance then or doesn't that matter to you ?

Apart from spying on them (with one ship I assume), do you also send out a message first to them, explaining your intent to start raiding him/her if you don't hear from them or something ?

How long do you wait before you attack ?
How long inactive really means inactive ?

I myself do raiding with lots of sets of these: 2 small merchants + 2 small warships + 2 stonethrowers + 2 spearfighters (spear 5/shield 10) and although, as igor also pointed out, you WILL loose some of those sets now and then due to the 1.9% chance of failure, but it still pays of when you, like me, raid a list of dozens of small islands without ruler with about 12 raidingparties simultaneously and according to a premade rotationlist of destinations.

Don't forget to mention in your personal IK details that if you made a mistake, they understand why that is and that you'll compensate for it. Unless they are real warmongers that will get you off the hook.

Then again, some areas of the ocean are REALLY unsuitable for this type of tactics.

P.S. Use the calculator guys, even with 3/3/3/3 or 6/6/6/6 you can still loose the whole raidingparty. Don't say you never loose anyone, just say it happens rarely then.

[Freiegeister]

How bad is this for a night's raiding:

Attack report from 24.08.2005 15:56
Offence Units Elenil (1:78:14)
Total Losses
Large Warship 3 0
Small Warship 8 0
Small Merchant Ship 15 0
Spearfighter 11 0
Archer 18 0
Catapult 2 0
Defence Units unnamed (2:86:1)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 41
Stone 25
Lumber 31

Attack report from 24.08.2005 15:54
Offence Units Elenil (1:78:14)
Total Losses
Large Warship 4 0
Small Warship 7 0
Small Merchant Ship 15 0
Stone Thrower 6 0
Spearfighter 10 0
Archer 18 0
Defence Units unnamed (2:86:7)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 50
Stone 32
Lumber 37

Attack report from 24.08.2005 15:43
Offence Units Elenil (1:78:14)
Total Losses
Large Warship 4 0
Small Warship 6 0
Small Merchant Ship 14 0
Stone Thrower 6 0
Spearfighter 8 0
Archer 18 0
Defence Units unnamed (2:76:24)
Total Losses
Plundered Resources
Gold 14
Stone 9
Lumber 10

[Natmus]

Lousy timing, but I'm meeting that in my area too. The only cure is to shift your raiding schedule by 12 hours so you get in ahead of the competition. Also I'm impressed by the size of your raiding fleets. You really don't take chances anymore, do you?

[Freiegeister]

natmus said:

Lousy timing, but I'm meeting that in my area too. The only cure is to shift your raiding schedule by 12 hours so you get in ahead of the competition. Also I'm impressed by the size of your raiding fleets. You really don't take chances anymore, do you?

Did you think the catapults against an unowned island was overkill?

I only hit with 100% certainty these days, and these raids are my way of keeping the fleet out when I'm offline (the distance is ~7 1/2 and 8 hours). While I could get wacked easily by anyone, the fleet is far more valuable than protecting some bulding levels. Just a bummer they didn't bring back anything. Need to find different targets.

[Highlander]

what member id and below are we safe to assume are inactive if they have low scores before i make any costly mistakes

[Freiegeister]

highlander said:

what member id and below are we safe to assume are inactive if they have low scores before i make any costly mistakes

Score > 10 and MemberID > 32000 are probably not playing any more.

I would just spy on them. If they appear to be using their resources or have defense, leave them alone. Stone usage is the key. You can also see if someone else is cleaning them out regularily, often they will leave the stones.

I now tend to avoid Score 1 islands as they are too easy a target and everybody attacks them. There are far better targets for my fleet to attack. Look for ones like this:

Espionage report
from 28.08.2005 07:16
Espionage successful!
Offence Units Elenil (1:78:14)
Total Losses
Small Warship 1 0
Defence Units need for speed (1:39:10)
Total Losses
Buildings
Main House Level 7
Gold Mine Level 9
Stone Quarry Level 9
Lumber Mill Level 9
Barracks Level 9
Storehouse Level 9
Stone Wall Level 1
Watch-Tower Level 8
Research
Resources
Gold 1889
Stone 5159
Lumber 1243

This island has been farmed. Everything at level 8/9 except the Stone Wall. Now, the question is whether I share, as these two are in Alexander's area... ;D

[Freiegeister]

Jackpot!

Espionage report
from 29.08.2005 02:08
Espionage successful!
Offence Units Elenil (1:78:14)
Total Losses
Small Warship 1 0
Defence Units finland (1:38:13)
Total Losses
Buildings
Main House Level 20
Gold Mine Level 20
Stone Quarry Level 18
Lumber Mill Level 17
Laboratory Level 1
Barracks Level 1
Harbour Level 1
Storehouse Level 16
Stone Wall Level 1
Watch-Tower Level 4
Research
Spear Level 10
Shield Level 10
Bow Level 6
Sail Level 6
Resources
Gold 18488
Stone 18488
Lumber 18488