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Post by Arminius on Mar 6, 2007 20:29:43 GMT
Let me get this straight: tehgasman and Ltemperror are suspected multis of Oogahk? I'm a bit confused at the moment...
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Post by 2kcastle on Mar 6, 2007 20:38:47 GMT
we're all confused. Tehgasman is suspected of being a multi, as soon as his isle was attacked ooghak mailed andrew and demanded he (tehgasman) be left alone, since then ltemperror for unknown reasons has felt the need to get involved and has claimed to be recieving up to 7k of each res per day for weeks, pain has also sent a message saying he doesnt care if tehgasman is a multi as long as ltemperror recieves the resources. as far as i know none of them have ever said why tehgasman owes them such an enormous amount or why he didnt complain himself when his isle was attacked.
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Post by eproxy on Mar 6, 2007 20:43:21 GMT
How can they both be recieveing 7k resources a day? Hell if I could get a single isle to make 14k a day of each resource I'd have almost double my number of isles.
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Post by Rocklobster on Mar 6, 2007 20:52:58 GMT
Allow me to break it down:
Tehgasman: Around a month of inactivity. His isle had clearly been developed to ship supplies, nothing more. After attacking, I recieved dozens of messages from Oogahk and LTEmperror before "he" said anything. After attacks, No attempts to repair were made, and surplus of resources were not used to build anything but merchant ships.
Oogahk: First to message me after attacking Tehgasman. Claimed to be a "silent member of the AMC " . He refused to tell me his involvement with Tehgasman until finally he gave me this:
"I had almost removed him from the game due to an unpaid debt. He has since repayed the debt, and since he did I am protecting him until he gets back on his feet."
LTEmperror: Messaged me saying he protected Tehgasman, who still owed him. Note the above message says that he does NOT owe anything. Eventually, after ignoring the proof I sent, he said that Tehgasman attacked him , accumulating a large debt in the process, and that Oogahk was the one forcing him to pay it. He then asked me to pay for the damages I had so far inflicted. I added the reports to the database if you would like to see. He then started hounding me about my age, coming to the brilliant conclusion the I might be 17, or less. I then asked him about Oogahks involvement in the AMC. His response was that he didn't even know what it was.
At this point, he was informed I would not repay for anything and would commence with the ruining of Tehgasman. He then threatened me (see first post) . At this point, I finally recieved a message from Tehgasman saying " OMG, why are you attacking me" . I haven't dealt with him since
Now Tehgasman has built some defense.
Pain: LTEmperrors admin. Far more charismatic , he offered me a chance to give my side. I told him what was going on. He told me ;
"Multi or not, if tehgasman owes my guy a debt, my guy should be able to collect....shouldn't he? I would propose you let LTEmperror farm him until the debt is paid, then you may destroy tehgasman as you see fit. Is that fair? Am I missing an element to the story that makes this an unfair arrangment? "
He also gave me this information willingly, regarding Tehgasmans supplies sent to LTEmperror:
Its been 20 days as I understand it. The total goods owed was 56k gold and 74k lumber, this full amount has NOT been collected.
LTEmperror said he was recieiving 7k gold and 5500 lumber a day. Im no mathematician, but 20 x 7000 = 140k gold, and his debt was said to be 56k gold and 74k lumber (said by pain).
From this you see they are tripping over their own lies. Ill provide any other info you need.
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Post by eproxy on Mar 6, 2007 21:00:36 GMT
Want me to message Pain for you? Hopefully he might be more receptive if someone else tries to explain the flaws in this probably web of deceit. Anyway I'm somewhat confused as to how he ended up owing both Ooghak and LTEmperor, or if didn't owe Ooghak why was he involved?
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Post by 2kcastle on Mar 6, 2007 21:05:07 GMT
when tehgasman applied to join us in january he said that ooghak had attacked him and wiped out his entire defence, how then did tehgasman manage to attack ltemperror and ooghak after that and incur these debts ?
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Post by Rocklobster on Mar 6, 2007 21:07:14 GMT
Thats the thing. Oogahk wasn't invovled in any logical way they have. You'll notice the three of them are on each others friends list. That seems to be the only thing connecting them. Ooghak is obviously lying about everything. The only issue really, is why the hell this is still going on. Am I wrong in assuming the above isn't ample proof?
EDIT: Another good point. They're a bunch of damned liars :@
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Post by Arminius on Mar 6, 2007 21:34:17 GMT
Would you be happy for me to a) post Rocklobster's story on the AMC forum b) ask Oogahk about that directly
I think step b is necessary as a formality.
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Post by Rocklobster on Mar 6, 2007 21:43:25 GMT
I honestly don't know. I think that someone other then me should handle this, as I don't know common or proper procedure. If you think that would be the proper thing to do, then Id be more then happy for this mess to be over. The sooner the better too, as Tehgasman has started building troops.
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Post by Arminius on Mar 6, 2007 21:50:29 GMT
OK, I will go ahead with this. I'll send Oogahk a message and then post your story on the AMC forum.
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Post by Arminius on Mar 6, 2007 22:06:16 GMT
Mmmh, what next?
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Post by Arminius on Mar 6, 2007 22:22:51 GMT
Opinions?
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Post by 2kcastle on Mar 6, 2007 22:31:28 GMT
I dont believe him. If that was true they have been collecting resources from tehgasman for between 4 and 6 weeks and i still cant see what this has got to do with ooghak. even if it was true his involvement was limited to attacking tehgasman and being told by ltemperor that tehgasman owed him resources (still no explanation as to why ) and asked to stop attacking him, why would ltemperor need help to collect a debt from a very small and already crippled player ? I think ooghak has thought up this story to try and explain why an isle would have built nothing but 70 sms and had a static score for weeks. Added : ooghak agreed to stop attacking tehgasman on the 7th of february and he says tehgasman started paying back resources a few days later so with the benefit of the doubt we can assume they have taken all the res off that isle for the last 22 days, we know the isle hasnt increased in score or built troops/ships so that means ltemperor has taken over 160k gold off that isle already.
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Post by Arminius on Mar 6, 2007 22:51:12 GMT
Must've been quite an attack, causing 120K worth of damage.
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Post by Rocklobster on Mar 6, 2007 23:18:12 GMT
I still dont buy it. It just doesn't add up. Does this mean Oogahk is in the AMC? And what about the first message saying the debt way payed? None of it makes sense I tell's ya.
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