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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 2, 2007 18:07:04 GMT
Once we start raiding/razing then that is likely to prove he's a multi as his other accounts will hit back, probably. Sounds to me like throwing the witch in the river. If she drowns, she's innocent. If not we can burn her at the stake with a clear conscience. I'm asuming the case is already very strong for him being a multi, attacks coming in from the other accounts would merely reinforce what we already know. I'm only attacking any multis if it is pretty much certain that they are actuall multis.
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Post by Natmus on Jan 2, 2007 19:08:11 GMT
I'm only attacking any multis if it is pretty much certain that they are actuall multis. David, how many more scout reports do you want? I have six more, but haven't bothered posting them here. It's the same the whole way through.
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Post by AeroS on Jan 2, 2007 22:49:46 GMT
how can you tell from those scouting reports that they are multi's?
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 2, 2007 23:01:48 GMT
how can you tell from those scouting reports that they are multi's? Quite simple. Units of saragon Total Losses Stone Throwers 183 0Nobody serios will have only stonethowers for defence. But, they happen to be the only item possible to ship out, so that what they build. Buildings Main House Level 14 Gold Mine Level 20 Stone Quarry Level 18 Lumber Mill Level 20 Laboratory Level 15 Barracks Level 20 Harbour Level 13 Storehouse Level 20 Watch-Tower Level 2 Technologies Catapult Stufe 1 Sail Stufe 10
Ability to produce catapults (or research on the way) as they too can be shipped away, while no spear of bow technology at all. Note the sail 10 to allow even faster shipments of resources, stoners and catapults. Resources Gold 12187 Stone 37238 Lumber 37485Overlapping stuff... plenty of accounts, thus not so much need for opimal usage of these.... some gold taken a while ago. All combined = very serious proof. Lots of similiar accounts created with close player ids = foolproof proof.
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Post by AeroS on Jan 2, 2007 23:30:57 GMT
How do I find my player ID #?
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Post by Arminius on Jan 2, 2007 23:36:00 GMT
How do I find my player ID #? 10097 Go to ranking and hover the mouse over your name. Then look at the link displayed in the status bar at the bottom of your browser.
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Post by AeroS on Jan 2, 2007 23:39:44 GMT
Great! Thanks for the info. I'm getting more dangerous every day.
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Post by Natmus on Jan 3, 2007 0:26:28 GMT
The remaining 6 scoutings:
Tomorrow a few of jackaground's isles.
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Post by Natmus on Jan 3, 2007 0:48:34 GMT
Oh, what the hell, I just got the reports in:
Main:
First colony:
Second colony:
Anyone still in doubt this is a serious multi probably always will be.
The thing is: What can be done, or is it too late? It's too late with Tyrant becuase people sat on their asses not wanting to be the one doing anything about it. I got two slave accounts just before new years, but haven't figured out what the master account is. In this case we have both slaves and master account. If we level the slaves fast enough, the master account can kept under control.
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Post by AeroS on Jan 3, 2007 1:22:00 GMT
hmmm no catapult technology on any of his islands and doesnt belong to any alliance yet he has 6 cats on his main. ahhh but he explains it in his profile.
I really wish i could do something to help, Natmus. I can send limited stoners(50?), maybe up to 100 and if it's not too late I might have a cat available to send on friday. MY FIRST CAT! dont scratch it all up. Just let me know what I can send you.
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Post by bishop on Jan 3, 2007 4:48:46 GMT
The thing is: What can be done, or is it too late? It's too late with Tyrant becuase people sat on their asses not wanting to be the one doing anything about it. I can't talk with much credibility, as I'm ill-equipped for the situation; but levelling a few farms and stealing his lightly defended colonies would be relatively easy (and possibly rewarding) work, if enough people want to join in. If it didn't finish him, it would reduce the benefit he gained from cheating—with his only major advantage being a very well defended main isle. The question should be more like "Multi-hunting, should we do it?" instead of "Multi-hunting, who is up for it?" If we do, then everyone is involved, if we dont, then we consider if it can be done with just few people. That's a very good point. I'm in favour of giving Jackogrounds a good smack if we can, but a robust approach for how we deal with multis in future might be useful. That is, do we have the will/resources to combat them? Can anyone here translate English to German? I want to pass on our evidence to the game administrator, but I gather that he ignores most mail that's written in English. Ideally he would take care of these cretins.
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 3, 2007 7:22:08 GMT
Arminius can speak German fluently.
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Jan 3, 2007 7:36:36 GMT
Are you going to organise this Natmus? If we do go after Tyrant here are some ideas:
1. Start a thread in the public section on here with full details of why we are attacking Tyrant plus all the evidence we have of him being a multi. We can then hopefully avert an alliance war and get more people on side.
2. We need another thread to organise things, get a list of volunteers with details of their forces.
3. We need to start spying on all Tyrants isles around the clock so we can see what he's up to. If we attack him we can then see if he launches his main fleet fairly quickly and then we can attack his main while it's relatively weak.
4. Before we do this we should build up the forces we need for the venture, so more cats and colony ships for starters.
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Post by domhnall on Jan 3, 2007 9:35:31 GMT
I've been only keeping half an ear to what is going on, so if I'm way off I apologise. But...
Aren't there others odd with him? Didn't -S- attack Elite? Could you say you are coming to there aid and really just attack Tyrant?
Tyrant is just going to deny his multism. It might be better if it was just part of the arguement. Could you use it win brownie points with Elite?
I'll do what I can obviously. I'll have the infrastructure for a colo ship tonight, but I'll drive on with fleets and raiding until this blows over.
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Post by Shendemiar on Jan 3, 2007 9:43:04 GMT
This thread was not abou Tyrant, but someone in ocean 12.
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