SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 14:58:23 GMT
I’m not the only one who hasn’t bothered to defend their colonies, my policy was to build the colony up to a stage where it could support itself and then go for spears asap. My other colony has been building spears for a couple of days now and the one attacked was virtually ready as well, I’d got the technology to do it but hadn’t got round to expanding the barracks enough. That was what I was doing when the attack came in.
My thinking is that stoners are so weak compared to stoners that their not worth bothering with in any meaningful amounts, the amounts I could muster of around 40 or so wouldn’t have deterred anyone who had 60 LWs and 11 Cats anyway. I had built the stone wall up to level 5 as some kind of defence, but that wasn’t enough either.
Perhaps we need to rethink this? I’m surprised that an attempt was even considered as there are still plenty of unowned islands around and mine was nowhere near being even half way developed.
In future I’ll be building the odd few stoners on each isle and shipping them to whichever my newest colony is at the time and then repeating the exercise once my newest colony can build ships and spears and has built enough spears to be a reasonable deterrent.
I’m keeping my options open here, once the spy reports come in they will make my mind up for me, if Sabby has a weakly defended colony then I will raid it to get back the resources I need to rebuild that isle.
Assuming all Sabbys’ isles are too tough for me, I propose someone assembles some cats to teach “her” a lesson, we can’t have people taking pops at members of Morkin, FoM or Corleth just because they feel like it. Ideally this strike should be launched tonight, late on so it is undetected. I’m happy to donate resources towards it.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 15:44:08 GMT
Lots of stonies, no spears.
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 15:44:40 GMT
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Perun
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Post by Perun on Dec 21, 2006 15:49:18 GMT
"She"'s obviously not aware of our bulldog-type persistence... And that revenge is a dish best served cold. Oh well...
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Post by eproxy on Dec 21, 2006 15:53:58 GMT
I agree with the stoners being less efficient and not very good for actual defence however their power lies not in their physical stats but in their abiltiy to deter attackers. An isle with 15k stoners is unlikely to get attacked but thats only the equivolent of 5k spears, only an average amount which might otherwise be attacked.
Its like the statues, a psycological edge over other players (but not all). An isle with 3k score is classed as 'bigger' than an isle with 800 score and therefore has an edge over its 'smaller' and percieved weaker equivolent. We know this to be untrue but it still affects people even at the stage of IKUK (for the record even knowing this I still don't build statues).
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 16:37:07 GMT
I suspect Sabby is "taunting" me in an attempt to get me to launch what I've got at "her" so "she" can try fleet stealing, it wont work however as I don't get too flustered with a bit of name calling. I might call her bluff though and launch some dummy fleets to see what response I get.
I propose we do retaliate with a one off strike if we can get away without losing too much, but that might take some doing, will need to look at the spy reports in full, still waiting for one more.
I'm going to keep an eye on her profile though and as soon as she gets a new colony, I'll pay it a little visit myself to see what booty I can get before there is time for stoners to appear on it in force.
I also think we should put this on our profiles:
"As a member of FoM/Morkin/Corleth be warned that we operate a scorched Earth policy. If you steal a colony from any member of these alliances, and it is not possible for us to get it back, it will be attacked round the clock until no structures remain over level 1 - in other words you're better off taking an unowned score 1 isle than one owned by us, it will be quicker and cheaper in the long run."
Clear?
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 17:25:30 GMT
Right, here's the final plan, let me know if you are happy with it.
If those of you who have cats can send me 1 or 2 each, that would give me some kind of firepower. I then wait for Sabby to get another colony, not long probably as she's got a colony ship going begging and then launch at the new colony. This is before she gets chance to build up any defences on the new colony, but after she has built a few buildings to give some kind of target to damage.
That's the only way I can see of us hurting her without sustaining much damage ourselves and we would then be quits.
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Dec 21, 2006 18:41:29 GMT
I think perhaps a member of Corleth/Morkin should do it instead, it'll show our cohesion and she won't be expecting it as much. This way she'll also be less likely to steal your main isle fleet.
An 80LW fleet of hers could clear up to 500 spears of yours and she'd still have that second built up isle of hers (which I believe to have a 'large' fleet) to fleet steal with.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 18:50:45 GMT
Ok, volunteers?
Actually no, I don't think it a good idea as I am easily closest to Sabby and therefore the fleet stealing window is much smaller.
If people are willing to send me cats (not many, 10 would do, 20 would be nice) and stoners to defend my main with, I can do this without much risk.
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eproxy
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Post by eproxy on Dec 21, 2006 18:59:18 GMT
I've sent 30 stoners, eta; ~7-8 hours.
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Post by 2kcastle on Dec 21, 2006 19:02:28 GMT
arminius was going to collect the available cats and use them to clear an isle, its probably best to speak to him, failing that i'll send my cat to you as soon as i get it back.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 19:09:37 GMT
Does everyone support this? I don't want to act unilaterally.
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Post by raistlin on Dec 21, 2006 19:33:41 GMT
I support it (as you know), and my cats are on the way.
I don't have many stoners sadly.
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SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Dec 21, 2006 19:57:54 GMT
I've now got pledges of cats and 14 are on their way to me, I don't think more are needed, unless anyone has a cat burning a hole in their pocket. I await Sabby getting her next colony........
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Post by AeroS on Dec 21, 2006 20:15:00 GMT
I can send 40 stoners in about 2 hours(waiting for some ships to return) but it will be a about 30 hours to get there. But I'll send anyways.
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