SkulkrinBait
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Post by SkulkrinBait on Oct 29, 2007 11:58:10 GMT
Please post your thoughts on this war and what we should do about it, if anything.
I've heard rumours that DIGG are using dirty tricks, which makes me want to join in on the side of Pantheon, I'm awaiting more info about this however.
But we need to work out what Luxor as a whole wants to do, but we also need to be quick.
Have your say NOW!
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Post by GraySea on Oct 29, 2007 12:09:21 GMT
No fight against dig yet. support pantheon where we can.
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Post by GraySea on Oct 29, 2007 12:09:56 GMT
No fight against dig yet. support pantheon where we can. OOPS!! sorry about the double post!! Internet slow here and my finger to fast!!!
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Post by Gornall on Oct 29, 2007 12:49:08 GMT
Happy to support but in no shape to actively fight them.
In o7 we have extremely little presence (The east in general) I know Ruku is damn near on his own aswell and he feeling the brunt of the last two skirmishes.
I'll abstain and go with the flow but I'm swaying towards a no.
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Post by DrieZ/Cesium on Oct 29, 2007 12:54:33 GMT
I'd say yes. And if not everybody wants to fight Digg, I completely understand that.
Perhaps the members who want to fight vs digg, should join the alliance Pantheon and come back after the war.
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Cesium
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Post by Cesium on Oct 29, 2007 13:51:29 GMT
You guys have already heard my reasons for war with DIGG as soon as possible. I think the conflict is winnable, Pantheon already seems to be making gains. We need to show commitment soon. How about the Morkin family pacts with Pantheon. This will give them a big morale boost, and show our commitment, but we won't need to jump in right away. We'll have some time to finish up Rahein, and get loose ends wrapped (and do some planning) before we do anything, but the longer it takes for us to commit, the harder it will be for us to prevail.
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2kcastle
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Post by 2kcastle on Oct 29, 2007 13:55:24 GMT
I've got no problem with fighting against digg, but if we're going to do it i think we need everyone on board! us and morkin (lets get ashimar and sol back from pantheon as well ) Its an all or nothing situation and we need to go with a majority decision from both alliances.
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Null
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Post by Null on Oct 29, 2007 14:14:51 GMT
from the other thread...
I agree something needs to be done before its too late, I just don't think we are in the position to help that we were a month ago, so why not try and garner our own support before we take the plunge? Go to our "friends" D|D, Empire perhaps, E|M, see if Valheru is actually going to join. These are the alliances (in addition to us) that can really make a difference, either politically, or via joining the war. I believe if we join on our own, we will likely be joining Pantheon in their destruction.
I'll happily fight Digg if its what we decide as a group, even though it means destruction of my account, as its in completely Digg dominated waters.
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kae
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Post by kae on Oct 29, 2007 15:18:33 GMT
I'm up for the pact in the short term, and joining the fray after substantial planning.
Valheru is onboard with Pantheon from my internal sources. It will only be a few days before they join the fray. But their military prowess and willingness to die is not nearly as high as ours.
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Aesir
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Post by Aesir on Oct 29, 2007 15:31:41 GMT
While I have no problem entering any fray - I have to think realistically here. We have the top 2 alliances going toe to toe and they are reasonably matched. Do we want to draw unwanted attention to ourselves this early in the game? Or do we wait for them to dismantled each other for a week or two first....
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AeroS
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Post by AeroS on Oct 29, 2007 17:01:36 GMT
Absolutely NO! I am in the middle of DIGG country. The Orc confrontation cost me some fleets and I hold 9 weak but big Orc islands that I will lose instantly. Rahein hold 3 of my O43 island and has leveled a few more. I have dumped fleets into his O43 mains so that we can expend more fleets and take his whole O43 set. In the end I will be one big free island increase for DIGG. We are biting off more than we can chew here.
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Post by Gornall on Oct 29, 2007 18:43:42 GMT
Absolutely NO! I am in the middle of DIGG country. The Orc confrontation cost me some fleets and I hold 9 weak but big Orc islands that I will lose instantly. Rahein hold 3 of my O43 island and has leveled a few more. I have dumped fleets into his O43 mains so that we can expend more fleets and take his whole O43 set. In the end I will be one big free island increase for DIGG. We are biting off more than we can chew here. Agreed, similarly o7 will be bent over should we war with digg.
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Ruku
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Post by Ruku on Oct 29, 2007 18:55:56 GMT
Meh, if the majority want it then I'm in, its a game and the fleets and isles are expendable (even if it is using up all my time ) /edit - although when I think about it for longer I would say no. Even though I dont like the idea of DIGG ruling the server, there are quite a few members that are slightly weaker from the recent war/skirmish. In short, DIGG will pick apart some of us and we will just feed them isles, res and forces.
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Null
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Post by Null on Oct 29, 2007 19:29:39 GMT
Can we at least all agree that we can start trying to organize and assist Pantheon in a political sense? Try and garner support from other top 10 alliances, put some pressure on people ect. This can be done now, outside of the whole debate about whether to attack or not (which I don't think will get solved anytime soon).
If we can gather support, work with other top10 alliances, it gives us that much more pressure to apply to Digg. Will they really want to continue fighting Pantheon, if 6 more top10 alliances are willing to jump in on their side? Alliances will be open to this type of diplomacy (as opposed to asking them to dedicate fleets to the cause right now).
We simply need a single point of organization to get something like this going. And I think we are the perfect alliance to get it going in the right direction, and to see it through to conclusion.
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digital
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Post by digital on Oct 29, 2007 19:37:26 GMT
Yeah we need to put our full diplomatic weight behind Pantheon, regardless of whether we are going to fight or not.
We need a forum post on the IK officials stating that we want digg to split, contact other TOP10 alliance leaders and ask them to sign it as well, as in they sign it by posting in the thread. This way if we do need to war there's the possibility of top10 alliances coming and helping.
Diplomats get on to the this and draft it up.
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