Fleet duplication

[Arminius]

Yesterday I managed to clone 1 SWS and 1 Spear. There is no reason why this should not also work with 1000 LWS...

Here the story: efreemanus alerted me to a fleet-steal opportunity (MrT of [HOR]) a while ago. I did manage to steal the isle, but the colo attack sent from that isle succeeded. We agreed that efreemanus would take the second isle back, which belonged to him.

After several failed attempts the final one happened yesterday. I had previously messed up a fleetsave and killed his coloship with 90 SWS, and currently there was 1 SWS on it. I sent it out, and recalled it, but a bit too early. It would come back a few seconds before the colo fleet hit. So I set up another attack, which I sent out as soon as the fleet came back. But then the colo fleet had hit:

17 hours ago
Attack on rO43 Way Out (43:45:19)
Colonization successful.
Units of efreemanus
Total Losses
Large Warships 100 20
Colonization Ships 1 1
Spearfighters 500 98
Units of Arminius
Total Losses
Small Warships 1 1
Spearfighters 1 1

As you can see, the spearfighter didn't make it.

However, this morning when I logged in, there was this attack report:

9 hours ago
Attack on Kamina City (43:34:3)
Units of Arminius
Total Losses
Small Warships 1 1
Spearfighters 1 1
Units of Gurren
No report on adversarial units.
Plundered resources
Gold 0
Stone 0
Lumber 0

So he also made it, effectively being cloned. Funnily enough, that attack report came to ME, not to efreemanus as the new owner of the isle, and apparently the attack was sent from one of my isles, namely the one in o34 which I got sent to after I lost the isle to efreemanus.

Anybody interested in trying this out with a larger fleet...?

[Clausewitz]

Maybe it's because it's still before dawn, but I'm not sure I understand what happened here...

[Arminius]

I fleet-saved, but the same fleet both stayed in the harbour (and was destroyed) and also went out to attack the isle (as I couldn't recall; or rather I didn't try, as I was sure it had been destroyed).

[RapSO]

But how do we assume it happened? Was it because it was a matter of seconds between the attacks or did you send out an attack that technically shouldn't be possible at the given time?

It would be evil, but useful to duplicate a 1K fleet

[Natmus]

arminius said:

I fleet-saved, but the same fleet both stayed in the harbour (and was destroyed) and also went out to attack the isle (as I couldn't recall; or rather I didn't try, as I was sure it had been destroyed).

It's not possible that the units killed in harbour were new units just completed, and so not the same as the ones on the un-recallable fleetsave mission?

Just checking to eliminate all other explanations.

[Arminius]

No, they were definitely the same, as the SWS was only completed about 10 minutes earlier. I think I must have launched at the exact time where the DB update fell between the fleet being wiped and being launched. Not sure what the chances are of replicating this...

[Clausewitz]

If that's the case, it may have come down to hundredth's of a second...

Notice that little "0.07" (or something similar) at the bottom of the IK page? That's the time it took for the site to load - or so I have been told by people smarter than I. Essentially, that's the server's lag time, if I understand correctly.

Predicting what that number will be is near impossible, though it is generally always less than 1.00. And that may be what is required to execute such a thing again - not to mention the lag in your browser to the IK server from the time you hit "send", which for some people (like myself) can be upwards of 2-3 seconds.

[Shendemiar]

Its not the load time... its the time it took the machine to generate the page.

[eproxy]

I would hope that it be less than 0.05 as well, let alone 1.00 :\

[SkulkrinBait]

Shendemiar is right, the host has no idea what the download time is for the page. Although I agree that 0.05 is pretty crummy for your average IK page, maybe it's all the scripter/multi detecting code that Sven put in there?

;D