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[SkulkrinBait]

perun said:

Dave, can you please allow me to edit/replace my review of the game on ogreview.org? I wrote that at the beginning, when I didn't know extent of bugs/flaws/exploits known now.

I would very much like to write a new review. Don't worry, I don't want to butcher the game, just to put previous over-enthusiasm in the right perspective.

TIA!

No problem, I'll look into how I can do it and let you know. Probably will need to delete the entry and let you start from scratch as it's a blob which is a pain to edit.

Give me a day or two and I'll be in touch.

[Shendemiar]

This is so Cool! Maybe i should write something too ;D

[SkulkrinBait]

Go ahead, make my day

[Perun]

skulkrinbait said:

My response - Timbus, I forgot to add your name to my response so I've sent another reply mentioning that you want to put your name to it as well

<snip>

Ptui! After all the effort to discredit us, now she's trying to lick the hand she bit. What an ungrateful, self-righteous bit.ch.

All she wants is to feel superior, so you are "the good one" just because you apologised and crawled under the rock. (No offense intended, Dave) These women have some serious problems, if you ask me.

There's no way in the world I will ever again play the role of a beta-tester for someone who does not deserve any respect at all. I hate when people play this warm-cold kind of mind-fu.ck games.

She openly admits that it was *me* she looked up first. Because I pointed out that game has some serious design flaws. I didn't even disclose them publicly! Still, I'm the enemy number one. Incredible. And that's not a witchhunt? Bulls.hit. I should have kept quiet and everything would have been fine? No thanks, that was never my modus operandi.

I, as anyone else, have my pride, but when I fu.ck up any of my programs and people point out that this or that sucks (which happens, unfortunately, from time to time) I cover myself with ears, apologize and fix the thing. I don't go around calling people names and poking through their e-mail accounts or sniffing through weblogs to see if they have visited some porn site or online betting shop... I hate when that happens, I moan, I grind my teeth, but I know when I'm wrong.

But these two have no sense of self-guilt at all. Thankfully, I didn't pay anything, so I'm not that concerned, and as well as Mark, I was planning to quit anytime soon (as a matter a fact, I logged in extremely rarely lately anyway). But you guys who did pay have every right to be pis.sed off.

Case is now officially closed for me. I spoke from the heart, so don't be offended because of few harsh words.

[SkulkrinBait]

perun said:

skulkrinbait said:

My response - Timbus, I forgot to add your name to my response so I've sent another reply mentioning that you want to put your name to it as well

<snip>

Ptui! After all the effort to discredit us, now she's trying to lick the hand she bit. What an ungrateful, self-righteous bit.ch.

All she wants is to feel superior, so you are "the good one" just because you apologised and crawled under the rock. (No offense intended, Dave) These women have some serious problems, if you ask me.

I apologised as I had transgressed the rules, but I did point out that the rules were not at all transparent.

Not sure exactly what you mean by crawling under a rock, I felt my response was reasonable under the circumstances, but I don't take offense easily.



I do think this has been handled badly by them and have also pointed the fact out to them. I'm now taking a few days to consider my future in the game.

[SkulkrinBait]

perun said:

Dave, can you please allow me to edit/replace my review of the game on ogreview.org? I wrote that at the beginning, when I didn't know extent of bugs/flaws/exploits known now.

I would very much like to write a new review. Don't worry, I don't want to butcher the game, just to put previous over-enthusiasm in the right perspective.

TIA!

OK, you should be able to re-write and submit a new review. I've kept a copy of the old one in case you want to use that or refer to it again.

Any problems let me know.

[SkulkrinBait]

BTW Perun, you're showing as banned on the OR forums, did you do something naughty or is that how they deleted the account? I saw your request for the account to be deleted.

[Perun]

Just said that I want my account to be deleted, nothing else.

[inyati]

I have made my peace:

I think we have all said what there was to say. Arguments have been fenced on both sides, and we have both extracted the desired conclusions from them.

I honestly beleive this is a good game, and I enjoyed it till the end (against a tough "enemy" that I hope will fall ;-) ). Many things still need to be adressed, and I know they are. I also beleive that these misfortunes and disagreements are good for us all. Its what makes us grow, and its also the core of the whole democratic society. I urge the OR2 community to talk here more often. This is where you get a chance to put your little idea into a game created by others.

I will however delete my current account, after all I have "cheated" under the EULA. But who knows, Blackness just might linger or reincarnate in another season...

Time to move on.....NEXT!

[ashimar]

Dear Marc,

I was going to reply in more depth, but my gut tells me its just not worth
my time because it is becoming clear that no matter what I say, you will not
allow yourself to see things from our perspective. At the heart of the
matter is the simple fact that you broke the rules, rules you agreed to when
you signed up an account and as a consequence of your actions (no one
elses), your account has been suspended.

I stand by my original assertion that your mails contain veiled threats
(such as your mentioning of the possibility of being sued for libel. For
future referece, slander is false and defamtory ORAL statements). I would
also add I feel they show a level of arrogance like nothing I have
experienced before, continually trying to point the finger of blame at me,
when it is not I who have had my account suspended for breaching the EULA
(this is short for End User Licence Agreement... the agreement you agreed to
when you signed up an account).

I'm fairly sure that you will deem my lack of an indepth response to be some
kind of victory, the fact that I am not responding must mean I am wrong or
that I cannot answer your points. On the contrary, I could do so but I have
chosen not to. You have requested that we delete your account, a request
that I will honour.

I'm sorry things didn't work out to your liking, but I will not be bullied
or threatened into submission, especially when the bully is the one guilty
of breaking the rules. And again, we arrive at the same point... the fact
that you, along with the other players listed, broke the rules. The
difference being that some of them have been adult enough to admit they were
wrong and instead of trying to lay the blame at someone elses feet, they
have accepted their actions and consequently their fate.

Regards

Athena

She does seem to be preoccupied with ´not loosing´, which could be a reflection of real life issues in relationships...

This is a nice one, fellow slaves of mistress Christina (she must like you David, to the rest of is it´s Athena):

and instead of trying to lay the blame at someone elses feet, they
have accepted their actions and consequently their fate

So now I am a bully ! Isn´t that great ?


P.S. I like your message to her, Rogerio. Very businesslike ;D

[Shendemiar]

Shes giving me a hardon ;D

I want to submit!

[ashimar]

shendemiar said:

Shes giving me a hardon ;D

I want to submit!

Quickly, dive into a frozen Finnish lake. They are already frozen aren´t they ?!

[Shendemiar]

ashimar said:

Quickly, dive into a frozen Finnish lake. They are already frozen aren´t they ?!

Oh i would, if only my mistress would command me to

;D

[inyati]

ashimar said:

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P.S. I like your message to her, Rogerio. Very businesslike ;D

Money talks ;D
And besides I could smell the fear in them of loosing face. But I'm not going to push any further. I think each one made his point and it forced (or will force) them to rethink a few issues.
Overall I think we were caught in something we knew was risky, and have to swallow that. What really made me mad was the way we were exposed. A personal mail would have easy resolved things on both sides.

Whats done, is done, and I mean it when I say I liked the game. It really got into my system.

As for letters and mails, I still think Marc that you know how to bulldoze any argument. Not even Socrates could baffle the opponent in such a way...

[Natmus]

I haven't heard anything since the last note, so I'm assuming I'm still banned, or suspended or whatever. I'm not going to try to login before I hear anything, and even then I might not even bother with the game again.
Simply put, I don't agree with that non-sharing rule, and as such it may just be that this disagreement will make me abandon the game without further notice.