[planning] ePWS fleet organisation

[SkulkrinBait]

soiram said:

skulkrinbait said:

soiram, as you are nearer to DLs colony in 15 it would be better if you built the CS as when you launch it there is less chance of it being noticed before it arrives. I will send what resources I can and when, let me know and I will do it.

Do you have the option to build a CS now and a level 20 store?

I do have in Shimeril, not in Dawn which is next door to DL's colony.
Dawn has l18 storehouse and l11 harbour, so it's going to take a week I guess to be able to produce colony ship.

Therefore, anyone who can spare resources for a colony ship please send them to Shimeril. I will contribute some too, but Shimeril is my cat producing facility and I want to have some more cats for the attack in order to be able to make first wave.

OK, 6k of each resource sent to Dawn, message me in IK as and when you want more and I will send it. Let me know how much your stores will take so I don't waste any stuff!

[inyati]

Updated 1st Page.
I hear you! But lets get scout information first and take it from there! (refering to post 14)
I like to anounce the request for volunteers in Ik so could someone with the power do so, or give temporary power to do so.

[SkulkrinBait]

I beleive we're launching scouts from that user we took over who's name escapes me! Might as well launch the spies now and we can spy again just before we attack, or maybe better to hold fire nearer the time to avoid tipping her off?

[inyati]

skulkrinbait said:

I beleive we're launching scouts from that user we took over who's name escapes me! Might as well launch the spies now and we can spy again just before we attack, or maybe better to hold fire nearer the time to avoid tipping her off?

Spy ships should go out now from Colms island IMHO. Although not directly important in this thread they will help comanders prepare the attack waves.

[soiram]

skulkrinbait said:

Natmus would be able to clarify this, but how are we going to target each colony? I assume wave one needs to be the biggest to take out any fleets and defence units, cats hitting the stone wall. Wave 2 should have an easier time with no wall and few forces left, so can be smaller and the cats target the main house. With the main house gone the final wave with the colony ship can attack and win! We might want wave 4 with another colony ship just to be safe, ready in reserve to launch as soon as the previous colony ship fails, if it does.

What about the main isle? Keep pummelling the store and then resource generators?

The first attack (maybe the second too if target is well defended) should target the main house too. We cannot colonise unless the main house is level 1, isn't that the case?

This means that colonisation should come from as close as possible.

[soiram]

I am confused with flotillas. I belong to the Targs, but is this the organisation we will use? Shouldn't we organise per target proximity?


I think each member should know the answers to the following questions:

1) Which isle do I attack and from where?
2) When do I launch my attack(s)?
3) Is someone giving me resources/STs/cats?
4) Do I need to build a colonisation ship? Do I have infrastructure to receive aid in building it?
6) Do I need to quit Morkin before / after the attack?

We cannot launch until each one knows the answers to the above!!!!

[soiram]

This data comes from the Naval Powers thread. It gives us an idea of 3 categories of attackers.

MORKIN POWERS (Archers/Cats/LWS - Ocean)

Freiegeister 960/72/336 - 1
Natmus (Kyholm) 1100/50/245 -15
Ashimar 535/64/125 -14
Maroc 400/40/65 -15
Soiram (Shimeril) 400/30/125 -15
Colmfinito ?/?/? - 2
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Natmus (Hundsholm) 550/26/150 -14
Arminius 260/20/65 -15
MajorDefect 100/18/24 -15
Highlander 340/15/65 -4
SB 330/15/115 -15
Shendemiar 300/0/85 -1
Andre 140/13/40
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Ringthane (Conflaggare) ?/5/50
Ringthane (Torch) ?/7/60
Perun 45/10/60 -23
Guinevere 64/9/10 -6
Patton 30/4/1 -1
Orvindor 80/2/20 -5
Shirak 80/3/15 - 6

[inyati]

soiram said:

I am confused with flotillas. I belong to the Targs, but is this the organisation we will use? Shouldn't we organise per target proximity?

That´s been estabilished. We are doing it by proximity (I agree that if you read along the thread, the discusion I had with David might be confusing).

soiram said:

I think each member should know the answers to the following questions:

......

We cannot launch until each one knows the answers to the above!!!!

The answers are important, but are not to answered in her. This is only for Fleet Organization, just as you created it.

[inyati]

As it might take some time for volunteers to arise, I will post a proposal of the fleets and members that will attack and colonise, based on proximity.

[inyati]

****TAKE NO NOTICE THIS IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION*****

DARKLADY
Dark Isle (1:35:17)
Commander: Freiegeister
Flotilla members:Freiegeister (Elenil), Shendemiar ( Adhrania), MMU-Patton (Korkith), ouroboro13 (Kumar), Lobath (Erikousa)


Shadow Isle (11:32:17)
Commander: Freiegeister
Flotilla members: Freiegeister (Elenil), Shendemiar ( Adhrania), MMU-Patton (Korkith), ouroboro13 (Kumar), Lobath (Erikousa)
Colonization attempt: Any of the above


Eclipse Isle (13:72:4)
Commander: Ringthane
Flotilla members: Ringthane (Conflaggrare, Fulmen et Furor, Kearinns Torch, Platina Ardente), Perun (Issa (Vis), Xuratoth (Isle of Bats, X marks the spot), Davidjwest (Tokren), SoulCatcher (Thorns)
Support Team: Dalfiatach (Dregrim), André (Andclan,
Een, Wisle), SoulCatcher (Roses)
Colonization attempt: Any of the above


Gloom Isle (6:82:3)
Commander: Natmus
Flotilla members: Iserath (Ansalon, Sancrist, Takhisis), Guinevere (Inis Meain, Inis Mor, Pascalis), Natmus (Egholm, Eskeholm)
Support Team:
Colonization attempt: Guinevere

Requesting members in Ocean 15,5,and 6
Iserath and Guinevere are nearest this one. Natmus has a colony not too far away.

Dusk Isle (15:42:11)
Commander: davidjwest(SkulkrinBait) from Gard 15:92:11 (5hrs 4mins) 115 LW 20 SW 15 Cats 465 Archers 400 Sp 325 ST
Flotilla members: Natmus? Or you can go first if you like! Soiram (shimeril -> 30cats, 120 LWS).
Colonization attempt: soiram at Dawn. Target is 31 minutes away. Currently at l18house, l12harbour.

[Natmus]

I don't know about my role. My idea was to take on PhoenixFlame myself, and leave DL to you guys. I may need all my 5 battle isles to accomplish this. For example, all the isle of Eghom has in the way of a fleet is 20 SM to transfer resources to Eskeholm. Eskeholm then produces archers, cats and warships 24/7/365.

[SkulkrinBait]

Sounds good to me, we might need a bit of help from you against DLs colonies where we've not got enough forces and you've got colonies, Gloom springs to mind. We wont know until the spy reports start coming in though.

[soiram]

Ringy is in as expected. I am trying to organise him a bit.

Eclipse isle is a 400 score island and Ringy has:
Conflaggrare
50 LW
5 cats
10 SW
Full archer bow10 complement

Kearinn's Torch
60 LW
7 cats
60 SW
Full archer bow10 complement

so we may need help for the first wave.

[soiram]

By looking at the above, my first conclusion is that Targs are overkill for Dusk isle. I can take that myself with some help, so people in Ocean 15 need to disperse their forces to Frei for the main island. Our biggest issue remains Shadow Isle, a 1000 score island that is far away. I think this will need the most logistics management.

Marc, where will you strike? You have a large cat collection by now...

[SkulkrinBait]

Once we've knocked her colonies out and taken them we can all combine to attack the main isle, but admittedly we would be best off getting it first time.

Isn't Freiegeister strong enough himself to level it? He's pretty well armed!