Ladyhawke

[SkulkrinBait]

Re the above, the chat I had with Carol was purely me trying to get her to see sense and realise that she can't "prove" herself to everyone she meets through the internet, for a whole gamut of reasons. I'm not a 5th columnist!

Geminis eh?

[Shendemiar]

Bait i didnt understand any of your post! What did you try to say ;D

[SkulkrinBait]

Dark said:

Date: 16.08.2005 18:28
To: DarkLady
Subject: RE: RE: Hey there
DarkLady wrote:
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> No thanks. I'm also done trying to prove myself to everyone. I thank David for the talk he had with me. Unfortunately it was too late for Ashimar, I had already sent out my fleet.

That.

[Shendemiar]

skulkrinbait said:

Dark said:

Date: 16.08.2005 18:28
To: DarkLady
Subject: RE: RE: Hey there
DarkLady wrote:
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> No thanks. I'm also done trying to prove myself to everyone. I thank David for the talk he had with me. Unfortunately it was too late for Ashimar, I had already sent out my fleet.

That.

Whatsoever i deleted her. She wont consume our time HERE anymore but only as an player in this game.

[SkulkrinBait]

I didn't make myself clear, nothing new there, probably why my PHP never works!

I was trying to say that I wasn't a 5th columnist as the quote might make some think I am a bit too friendly with Carol, we don't discuss IK when we chat, it's mainly me listening to her happenings.

[Perun]

No one ever called you 5th columnist, Dave.

[Perun]

I can bet my left ball that it was just another try to throw a bone among us (is that the right expression?), now that you mentioned it...

[SkulkrinBait]

I'm not sure if it is the right expression, but I know what you mean and it sounds like a good way of putting it!

[Ringthane]

Chicks and stones may break my bones ;D

[Perun]

It never ends, it seems. Here's my newest correspondence, this time from MMU forum:

From: DarkLady
To: Perun
Posted: 18.08.2005. 19:36
Subject: Hey there
Igor,

I'm slowly losing the desire to remain a part of this group. There are several reasons for it as you know, but most notably my lovely discussion with you yesterday and now I find someone has deleted my user account on the old forum so I can't even see the old midnight forum.

I think I'm just getting tired of it all. Its a shame really. All because of Marc and Inselkampf and now this has all happened. The funny thing is I have never heard from Marc about anything. If he was a man he would have talked to me. Oh well...

I used to get angry about things like this but I'm not going to bother anymore. I've got way more important things to do like being a mom, which has its ups and downs, lol.

Anyways, not sure what I'm going to do yet, but I really am just getting tired of it all. People I've known since way back are treating me quite poorly and I just will not stand for it anymore. It is all so childish.

I'll talk to you soon.

your friend,
Carol

From: Perun
To: DarkLady
Posted: 18.08.2005. 20:41
Subject: Re: Hey there
DarkLady wrote:
Igor,

I'm slowly losing the desire to remain a part of this group. There are several reasons for it as you know, but most notably my lovely discussion with you yesterday and now I find someone has deleted my user account on the old forum so I can't even see the old midnight forum.

I think I'm just getting tired of it all. Its a shame really. All because of Marc and Inselkampf and now this has all happened. The funny thing is I have never heard from Marc about anything. If he was a man he would have talked to me. Oh well...

I used to get angry about things like this but I'm not going to bother anymore. I've got way more important things to do like being a mom, which has its ups and downs, lol.

Anyways, not sure what I'm going to do yet, but I really am just getting tired of it all. People I've known since way back are treating me quite poorly and I just will not stand for it anymore. It is all so childish.

I'll talk to you soon.

your friend,
Carol

To be totally frank, whether you like it or not and whether you get angry again:

- you have awful way of treating people. Especially those who you know will forget you for your actions/words. This is a sign of insecure person and a person who has been treated bad in the past. Anyhow, grown-ups tend to control their words and actions, as they are aware that not all find abuses funny or harmless.

- you have a bad habit of accusing other people for your own mistakes. This is again a sign of insecure person and a person who cannot cope with his/her own decisions, however good or bad they may be. You should "bite the Merda!" (as we "picturesquely" say in Croatia) and confess (first and foremost to yourself!) that you made a mistake/have said something wrong and apologize. But apologize in a way that sounds true. Or demand an explanation and apology if someone says something wrong to you. Everyone, you and me included, has a right to have a bad day.

- as a result of both my observations above, you try to justify your recent behaviour with a fact that you became a mother. Although it's true that women really change both physically and even more psychologically during and after childbirth, it's not a good idea to pull that kind of reason to the people that all (or most) have children of their own. Me, for example, having a child, I'm learning to be forgiveable, benevolent and patient as much as I can. It's not always easy but I'm trying. And I too, from time to time, catch myself justifying my actions or words with a fact that I have a child, but that's of course wrong. Our children should make us better, not worse.

- for the entire time that you've spent in Midnight community, you have never been completely honest with us. Many people are very sensitive with lies (or hiding the truth, or whatever you want to call it). Me, for example. I loathe lies of any kind. And hypocrisy, by the way. So, with more and more lies piling, you fall more and more from grace of many people here. But, which is much worse, people tend to stop believing anything you may say, because that's easier than always speculate what is true and what isn't. And you start losing credibility, which is, in my opinion, one of the worst things that may happen to a person when interacting with other people.

- you obviously tend to forget that for many people on Internet english is not native language. Although it may seem that many of us speak/write english good, even excellent, there is always a big probability that some word or phrase will be understood wrong. For example, "weird" may seem harsh or even insulting, but when it's translated to croatian and back (most common word is "čudan/čudno"), it can become "strange", "odd", "weird", "uncommon", "curious", "miraculous", "marvelous", or even "supernatural", "astonishing" or "prodigious". Among many other meanings. So you should be more forgivable when judging what people are writing, because it's not always what they originally meant. It was what it most closely sounded to them in english, even if sounded wrong.

I may sound too preachy or holier-than-thou, but I too have my share of bad happenings in my life, like most of the people, I guess. I have spent much time learning about psychology, so I think (to myself at least) that I can and should make an observation. In any way, I make that for a good cause, not to insult people.

Am I making sense here? I try to calm things down. Trying to talk some sense into her (not for the first time), but she's either unable to understand the world around her, or unwilling. Or is just too screwed up... But aren't we all?

[Natmus]

perun said:

It never ends, it seems. Here's my newest correspondence, this time from MMU forum:

From: DarkLady
To: Perun
Posted: 18.08.2005. 19:36
Subject: Hey there
Igor,

I'm slowly losing the desire to remain a part of this group. There are several reasons for it as you know, but most notably my lovely discussion with you yesterday and now I find someone has deleted my user account on the old forum so I can't even see the old midnight forum.

I think I'm just getting tired of it all. Its a shame really. All because of Marc and Inselkampf and now this has all happened. The funny thing is I have never heard from Marc about anything. If he was a man he would have talked to me. Oh well...

I used to get angry about things like this but I'm not going to bother anymore. I've got way more important things to do like being a mom, which has its ups and downs, lol.

Anyways, not sure what I'm going to do yet, but I really am just getting tired of it all. People I've known since way back are treating me quite poorly and I just will not stand for it anymore. It is all so childish.

I'll talk to you soon.

your friend,
Carol

Yes, I got one with almost the exact smae wording, one difference is that Igor is third person, not second. Of course

From: DarkLady
To: Natmus
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:25 pm
Subject: Hey there Quote message
Mads,

I'm slowly losing the desire to remain a part of this group. There are several reasons for it as you know, but most notably my lovely discussion with Igor yesterday and now I find someone has deleted my user account on the old forum so I can't even see the old midnight forum.

I think I'm just getting tired of it all. Its a shame really. All because of Marc and Inselkampf and now this has all happened. The funny thing is I have never heard from Marc about anything. If he was a man he would have talked to me. Oh well...

I used to get angry about things like this but I'm not going to bother anymore. I've got way more important things to do like being a mom, which has its ups and downs, lol.

Anyways, not sure what I'm going to do yet, but I really am just getting tired of it all. People I've known since way back are treating me quite poorly and I just will not stand for it anymore. It is all so childish.

I'll talk to you soon.

your friend,
Carol

I am getting sick and tired of this whole issue, I can't say I want Carol to go away as such, but I think the people that get along with her should keep talking to her, and those who can't get along with her should ignore her.

But what kind of exit will she make in IK when she leaves? Get all her boyfriends to attack us just to spite us?

[Perun]

Chiavata! you, Mads! Of course ;D

[SkulkrinBait]

Guess what I got?

[Perun]

What, you too? It's epidemic! ;D

[Matija]

It seems she numbers me among her friends as well. ;D

How's that for a methodical approach, now.