Shendemiar
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 16, 2006 22:51:29 GMT
This is what ive got so far.
[ftp]http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjalarvo/pacification/worldmap_we.bmp[/ftp]
Please feel free to correct any part of it if badly wrong.
Note that Europe is stretched as most of the gameplay will happen there.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 17, 2006 0:46:02 GMT
Hairyarsedniggerbitch!
Finally got VB to install, and now it seems it is .net stuff... Wont open my old project files...
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 17, 2006 3:40:37 GMT
Merdoso! son Puttana! Puttana! Fica! Pisello! Culo! !!! It took me 3 hours to code a simple bmp reader... WHY do they call it visual basic? 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Post by SkulkrinBait on Aug 17, 2006 11:21:40 GMT
Why have you included the mid-Atlantic ridge etc?
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Post by Perun on Aug 17, 2006 15:09:27 GMT
It took me 3 hours to code a simple bmp reader... WHY do they call it visual basic? You just might get the impression it has something to do with the Visual Basic series... It takes 3 minutes to do that in Delphi. What did you want - read the picture file, replace height colours with numbers (something like heightmap import), save to text file?
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 17, 2006 15:29:00 GMT
Why have you included the mid-Atlantic ridge etc? It was on files i used as a source to do this map. It might be usefull to have 3 types of sea. Coastal, Sea and Ocean
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 17, 2006 15:39:20 GMT
It took me 3 hours to code a simple bmp reader... WHY do they call it visual basic? You just might get the impression it has something to do with the Visual Basic series... It takes 3 minutes to do that in Delphi. What did you want - read the picture file, replace height colours with numbers (something like heightmap import), save to text file? I know... it would have taken 3 minutes also with the old Visual Basic 6. Mainly that extracting was just to see that i can do it with VB.net and to familiarize to the product. It has some connections to the old ones, so its not completely new enviroment. What i need is a sourcemap, with terrain and some additional data like default population, resources etc. This doesnt need to be space-optimized, but rather a easily editable format. What i also need is wery space-efficient way to hold per-game map data, like current population, owner, facilities, fog of war etc. Databases compress by default, but thats not good enough. Neither is table with columns for each x,y,terrain, pop and so on. It would become HUGE. What i need to know is how compressed php-array relates compared to binary file optimized for this task. I would bet the file beat the compressed array, but support for binaris in php isnt overwhelming. Ideal would be to hold some pictureformat in the database as the map as imagefiles are well optimized, and some of them can have several layers for different stuff.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 17, 2006 17:27:02 GMT
Im likely to end up having all the maps as png's... They are smart, extremely small, php-GD supported, and mainly, easily editable format! (layering them up as one image in psp7 or gamesite admintools makes me drool ;D ) Also its very easy to extract the data from the imagefile for the use of the gamescripts.
Terrains as 4 or 5 bit image, Fog of war as 1 bit, population as 3 or 4 bit, and so on.
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Post by Perun on Aug 17, 2006 18:59:56 GMT
Why don't you use some form of custom bit-mapped maps?
- 4 bits for terrain means 16 possible terrain types, that should suffice - 1 bit for FoW, that's also enough - population is a bit unclear to me (3-4 bits means at most 8 to 16 variations), or are these some kind of flags?
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 17, 2006 21:40:10 GMT
Why don't you use some form of custom bit-mapped maps? - 4 bits for terrain means 16 possible terrain types, that should suffice - 1 bit for FoW, that's also enough - population is a bit unclear to me (3-4 bits means at most 8 to 16 variations), or are these some kind of flags? That would have been most space-efficient, but i would had to use real files to achieve this. Instead i went for png, which are allmost the same sizewise, but can be opened to graphics editor, can be handled virtually (no real files), and have functions allready made in GD library.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 17, 2006 22:59:08 GMT
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 18, 2006 23:47:21 GMT
I must say that using pngs to store map data was allmost genius...
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 18, 2006 23:53:33 GMT
I must say that using pngs to store map data was allmost genius... You might ask "Whats the big fuss using graphical images to store maps and filters?" But as stupid as it sounds, im wery proud cos I invented it.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 18, 2006 23:57:13 GMT
I must say that using pngs to store map data was allmost genius... You might ask "Whats the big fuss using graphical images to store maps and filters?" But as stupid as it sounds, im wery proud cos I invented it. You might say "Oh come on, the concept was invented when Papyrus was, and this application was in the 50's when first computers came along" Ok, your partly right, but that just supports my pride. I inventent things that has become backbones of modern society.
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Post by Shendemiar on Aug 18, 2006 23:59:36 GMT
You might ask "Whats the big fuss using graphical images to store maps and filters?" But as stupid as it sounds, im wery proud cos I invented it. You might say "Oh come on, the concept was invented when Papyrus was, and this application was in the 50's when first computers came along" Ok, your partly right, but that just supports my pride. I inventent things that has become backbones of modern society. You are nuts! Thats what my wife tells me too. But i must say, that i invent things upto this magnitude on monthly basis... the downside is that i come to find that most of them have been invented elsewhere too... like the Tab-based web-interface, or most of the food recipies i come up with.
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